Eastern Bankshares (EBC) Q2 2025 Earnings Transcript

Image source: The Motley Fool. DATEFriday, July 25, 2025, at 1 p.m. ETCALL PARTICIPANTSChair and CEO — Bob RiversChief Executive Officer — Denis SheahanChief Financial Officer — David RosatoNeed a quote from a Motley Fool analyst? Email [email protected]TAKEAWAYSOperating Earnings-- Operating earnings were $81.7 million for Q2 2025, up 21% from the first quarter of 2025, demonstrating growth in core profitability.Net Interest Margin-- Net interest margin was 3.59% for Q2 2025, expanding by 21 basis points from the prior quarter, aided by higher asset yields and reduced liability costs.Operating Efficiency Ratio-- 50.8% operating efficiency ratio for Q2 2025, improved for the fourth consecutive quarter due to effective expense controls and increased revenue.Operating Return on Average Assets-- Operating return on average assets was up 21 basis points to 1.3% from the first quarter of 2025, indicating improved asset profitability.Operating Return on Average Tangible Equity-- 13.6% operating return on average tangible equity for Q2 2025, Increased from 11.7% at the end of the first quarter of 2025 to 13.6%Total Assets-- $25.5 billion as of Q2 2025 quarter end, a 2% increase in total assets since March 31.Tangible Book Value Per Share-- Rose 4% to $12.53 in Q2 2025, attributable to capital generation and balance sheet growth.Loan Growth-- 8% annualized for the quarter, led by broad C&I activity and strategic talent hiring.Deposit Growth-- 8% annualized, driven by higher municipal balances, with nearly 50% of deposits in checking accounts as of Q2 2025.Net Interest Income-- Net interest income was $202 million for Q2 2025. ($206.8 million on an FTE basis for Q2 2025), up $13.1 million or 7% from Q1 2025.Net Discount Accretion-- Net discount accretion was $16.5 million for Q2 2025, representing 29 basis points of margin; driven by early loan payoffs.Noninterest Income-- Noninterest income was $42.9 million for Q2 2025, rebounding from a noninterest loss of $230.1 million in Q1 2025 which included nonoperating losses from portfolio repositioning.Operating Noninterest Income-- Operating noninterest income was $42.2 million for Q2 2025, increasing $8 million sequentially, primarily from $7 million in higher rabbi trust investment income.Wealth Management AUM-- Reached a record $8.7 billion in assets under management for Q2 2025, with related fees of $17.3 million, up $800,000 sequentially.Noninterest Expense-- $137 million noninterest expense for Q2 2025, up $6.8 million sequentially due to higher operating costs and $2.6 million in merger expenses for the Harbor One transaction.Provision for Loan Losses-- $7.6 million provision for Q2 2025, up from $6.6 million in Q1 2025, driven primarily by loan growth.Period-End Deposits-- $21.2 billion period end deposits for Q2 2025, increased $424 million from the prior quarter, with deposit mix favoring stability and low-cost funding.Commercial Loan Growth-- $385 million sequentially in period end loans for Q2 2025, led by $219 million C&I, $117 million CRE, and $53 million consumer home equity growth.Investment Securities Yield-- 3.02% portfolio yield for Q2 2025, up 33 basis points from Q1, reflecting the full impact of portfolio repositioning.Capital Ratios-- CET1 at 14.4% and TCE at 10.8% for Q2 2025, marking continued capital strength.Share Repurchases-- $3 million repurchased at a $16.36 average price prior to the Harbor One merger announcement in April, all prior to merger announcement; board approved 13¢ dividend for September.Allowance for Loan Losses-- $232 million, or 127 basis points of loans as of Q2 2025, increased from $224 million and 125 basis points at the end of the first quarterCredit Quality Metrics-- No net charge-offs; nonperforming loans down $36.9 million to $54.7 million (30 basis points of total loans); criticized/classified loans fell to $460 million or 3.6% of loans.Total Commercial Real Estate Loans-- $7.3 billion total commercial real estate loans as of Q2 2025; multifamily remains the largest segment at $2.6 billion with no nonperformers or charge-offs.Investor Office Loan Portfolio-- $828 million (4% of loans) as of Q2 2025, down $48 million sequentially; criticized/classified office loans improved to $118 million (14% of office loans).Updated Loan Growth Guidance-- Increased to 3%-5% for full year 2025, reflecting stronger-than-anticipated first-half results.Updated Deposit Growth Guidance-- Lowered to 0%-1% for the year, citing a mix shift from CDs to money market accounts.Net Interest Income Guidance-- Revised to $810 million-$820 million net interest income for FY2025, described as a modest reduction from prior guidance.Provision Guidance-- Lowered to $27 million-$32 million for the year, improved from the previous $30 million-$40 million range.Operating Fee Income Guidance-- Increased to $145 million-$150 million in operating fee income for full year 2025, up from $130 million-$140 million in the prior outlook.Operating Noninterest Expense Guidance-- Lowered to $530 million-$540 million operating noninterest expense for full year 2025, reflecting improved operational efficiency.Operating Tax Rate Guidance-- Revised down to 21%-22% for full year 2025 operating tax rate, improved from the prior range of 22%-23%.Harbor One Merger Update-- All regulatory applications filed; approval and close expected in Q4, with 13 overlapping branches (six Eastern, seven Harbor One) slated for consolidation starting Q1 2026, pending regulatory approval.SUMMARYEastern Bankshares (EBC 1.30%) delivered robust sequential and year-over-year gains in profitability, margin, and asset quality, supported by strong commercial loan growth and effective expense management. Management increased full-year 2025 loan growth and operating fee income outlooks, while lowering cost and provision forecasts, reflecting outperformance and confidence in core business trends. Strategic clarity on deposit funding, ongoing discipline in capital management, and preparations for the Harbor One merger were emphasized, including specific plans for branch consolidation and integration. Leadership presented evidence of credit risk moderation, notably in commercial office portfolios, while maintaining conservative reserve levels and rigorous monitoring protocols.Chief Financial Officer Rosato noted, "We remain fully deposit funded with essentially no wholesale funding," highlighting stable core funding sources.Management confirmed that criticized and classified commercial real estate loans -- especially in investor office -- continued to decline, with no investor office loans currently classified as non-accrual.Strategic updates show expanded presence in Rhode Island and intent to deepen operations there post-merger, while CEO Sheahan stated, "we don't have plans to extend into Connecticut from a banking perspective."Guidance details were explicitly based on stand-alone operations and exclude potential impacts from the pending Harbor One transaction.Early adoption of the FASB CECL standard for the pending Harbor One merger was confirmed, with anticipated effects described as not material to tangible book value or earnings accretion relative to initial deal projections.INDUSTRY GLOSSARYRabbi Trust: A nonqualified deferred compensation trust for employee benefits, where related investment income and expense impact noninterest income and salaries line items.Accretion Income: Earnings recognized as a result of acquiring assets below par, boosting net interest margin through recognition of purchase accounting adjustments.Criticized/Classified Loans: Categories in loan portfolios assigned to credits showing elevated risk per bank regulatory gradings, monitored for possible loss.Non-PCD (Non-Purchased Credit Deteriorated): Segment of an acquired loan portfolio not previously marked for credit impairment under CECL, with impact on acquisition accounting.FTE Basis: “Fully Tax Equivalent” basis, adjusting income statement line items for tax-exempt interest to improve comparability among banks.Full Conference Call TranscriptBob Rivers: Thank you, Danny. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call this morning. With me today is Eastern's CEO, Denis Sheahan, and our CFO, David Rosato. We believe our strong second quarter performance underscores the strength of the Eastern franchise in our leading position in the Greater Boston area. During the quarter, we've been able to spend more time with our future colleagues at Harbor One, and our confidence in the opportunities and long-term value creation of our combination provides has only deepened. We are very excited about this partnership and look forward to welcoming Harbor One customers and employees to Eastern.Before turning the call over to Denis, I wanted to recognize Nancy Huntington Steiger, President and CEO of the Eastern Bank Foundation, who retired earlier this month after thirty years with our company. When Nancy joined Eastern in 1995 to lead our human resources team, she was the first woman to serve on our management committee and went on to actively shape our culture ever since. She served as a key collaborator and trusted partner not only for me but our entire management team, organization, and in the communities we serve. With much gratitude and appreciation, I congratulate Nancy on her retirement and wish her the best in her next chapter. With that, I'll hand it over to Denis.Denis Sheahan: Thank you, Bob. We're pleased with our strong second quarter results as highlighted on Page two of the earnings presentation and the continuation of positive trends in many areas of the business. Operating earnings were $81.7 million, an increase of 21% from the first quarter. Second quarter performance included a 21 basis point expansion in the net interest margin to 3.59% and continued improvement in the operating efficiency ratio to 50.8% due to higher revenues and effective expense management. These results generated further improvement in profitability metrics. Operating return on average assets was up 21 basis points to 1.3%, and operating return on average tangible equity increased from 11.7% at the end of the first quarter to 13.6%.As of quarter end, total assets reached $25.5 billion, up 2% from March 31. Tangible book value per share increased 4% to $12.53, reflecting balance sheet growth and solid capital generation. Robust loan growth of 8% annualized this quarter reflects our ongoing focus on profitable organic growth and continued strategic investments in hiring talent. Our scale, combined with deep local knowledge of the communities we serve, is a competitive advantage that consistently builds meaningful relationships and new business opportunities. Commercial loan pipelines are steady at approximately $500 million, and our customers remain resilient despite economic uncertainties. Deposits finished the quarter strong with 8% annualized growth. Importantly, the costs remained stable, highlighting our disciplined approach to pricing and favorable deposit mix.Momentum in our wealth management business continued this quarter, with assets under management reaching a record high of $8.7 billion. Credit trends continue to be positive, reflecting the quality of our underwriting and proactive risk management approach addressing issues prudently and quickly. Nonperforming loans of 30 basis points improved for the second consecutive quarter, and we did not have any net charge-offs. The level of nonperforming loans and classified assets peaked in the second quarter of last year and have continued to improve. Overall trends are positive, and office loan problems are mostly behind us. But we remain cautious in our outlook. We continue to closely monitor evolving economic conditions and policies that could impact customers.David, I'll hand it over to you to review our second quarter financials.David Rosato: Thank you, Denis, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin on slides three and four. We reported net income of $100.2 million or $0.50 per diluted share for the second quarter. Included in net income is a GAAP tax benefit related to losses from the investment portfolio repositioning completed in Q1 that accrues over the course of 2025. On an operating basis, earnings of $0.41 per diluted share increased 21% linked quarter and increased 78% from a year ago, reflecting the enhanced earnings power of the company with the addition of Cambridge. The results were highlighted by net interest margin expansion, fee income growth, and further efficiency ratio improvement.Looking at slide four, we are encouraged by improving quarterly trends across several financial metrics, including operating ROA and operating return on average tangible common equity.David Rosato: Reflecting stronger earnings performance and thoughtful balance sheet management. Operating ROA of 130 basis points for the second quarter is up 60 basis points from a year ago while return on average tangible common equity of 13.6% increased from 6.4% over the same period. We continue to generate positive operating leverage as evidenced by an operating efficiency ratio of 50.8%, which improved for the fourth consecutive quarter supported by higher revenues and effective expense management. Moving to the margin on slide five. Net interest income of $202 million or $206.8 million on an FTE basis increased for the fourth consecutive quarter and grew $13.1 million or 7% from Q1.The growth was driven by margin improvement, attributable to higher asset yields. Net income included net discount accretion of $16.5 million, up $4.3 million from the prior quarter due to early loan payoffs. The margin expanded 21 basis points to 3.59. Asset yields increased 21 basis points from the prior quarter primarily driven by higher investment yields, reflecting a full quarter impact of the investment portfolio repositioning completed in early February. In addition, the margin was favorably impacted by higher loan yields at a modest reduction in interest-bearing liability costs. Net discount accretion contributed 29 basis points to the margin compared to 22 basis points in the prior quarter. Turning to slide six.Noninterest income was $42.9 million, compared to a noninterest loss of $230.1 million in Q1. The first quarter included pretax nonoperating losses on the sale of available for sale of $269.6 million related to the investment portfolio repositioning. Operating noninterest income was $42.2 million, up $8 million linked quarter. Primarily driven by $7 million increase in higher income from investments held in rabbi trust for employee retirement benefits. The increase was partially offset by $3.2 million in higher rabbi trust benefit costs reported in noninterest expense. In addition, investment advisory fees and interest rate swap income grew $800,000 and $500,000 respectively. Turning to slide seven. We highlight our wealth management business, which is an important component of our long-term strategy.Wealth management fees, which account for nearly half of total operating noninterest income, are less sensitive to interest rate fluctuations, helping to diversify our earnings. Wealth management posted a solid performance in the second quarter, with assets under management reaching a record high of $8.7 billion, driven by market appreciation. Fees of $17.3 million were up $800,000 linked quarter, primarily due to seasonal tax preparation fees. On slide eight, noninterest expense of $137 million increased $6.8 million from the first quarter due to higher operating noninterest expense and merger-related costs. Merger-related costs related to the Harbor One transaction were $2.6 million compared to no such expenses in the previous quarter.Operating noninterest expense was $134.4 million, up $4.3 million linked quarter. The increase was primarily driven by $3.2 million in higher rabbi trust benefit costs I mentioned earlier. These expenses are reported in the salaries and employee benefits line. As anticipated, following better than expected Q1 expenses, we saw a modest uptick in costs across most line items in the second quarter. Moving to the balance sheet, starting with deposits on slide nine. Period end deposits totaled $21.2 billion, an increase of $424 million from the prior quarter. This growth was primarily driven by higher municipal balances which we expect to be seasonally lower in the third quarter.A sizable portion of the period end growth occurred late in the quarter. As a result, average deposits were consistent with Q1. We continue to benefit from a favorable deposit mix, with nearly 50% of deposits in checking accounts, providing a stable and low-cost funding base. We remain fully deposit funded with essentially no wholesale funding, which further enhances our balance sheet strength. Total deposit cost of 148 basis points were consistent with the first quarter while the cost of interest-bearing deposits decreased one basis point, driven by lower CD costs. While we remain focused on growing deposits to support our funding strategy, and we are committed to doing so in a disciplined manner.Our approach to gathering deposits prioritizes balancing liquidity needs with margin protection. On slide 10, period end loans increased $385 million linked quarter led by continued strength in commercial lending. Increased C&I activity drove $219 million of growth while momentum in CRE accelerated in June, resulting in a higher balance of $117 million. Consumer home equity lines continued its steady trajectory of quarterly growth, adding $53 million of loans. Commercial delivered a strong first half of 2025, with nearly $500 million of loan growth from year end 2024. The performance reflects the impact of our opportunistic hiring of growth-oriented talent, continued strength of the Eastern brand, and our long-tenured relationship managers.Our combination of meaningful scale which allows us to offer a broad suite of products and services, deep local expertise and presence differentiates us. Our high-quality investment portfolio, as shown on slide 11, benefited from a full quarter impact of the securities repositioning completed in early February. As a result, the second quarter portfolio yield was up 33 basis points to 3.02. Turning to slide 12. Capital levels remain robust, as evidenced by CET1 and TCE ratios of 14.4% and 10.8%, respectively. Consistent with our commitment of returning capital to shareholders, we repurchased $3 million worth of shares at an average price of $16.36 prior to our merger announcement in April.In addition, the board approved a 13¢ dividend to be paid in September. Looking at overall asset quality on slide 13, reserve levels remain strong, as evidenced by an allowance for loan losses of $232 million or 127 basis points of total loans. These metrics are up from $224 million or 125 basis points at the end of Q1. Credit trends continued to improve during the quarter. We did not have any net charge-offs and nonperforming loans decreased $36.9 million to $54.7 million or 30 basis points of total loans.The reduction in NPLs which increased the coverage ratio to 424% from 245% at the end of Q1 was driven by payoffs achieved through strong execution of our managed asset group. Criticized and classified loans, $460 million or 3.6% of total loans, improved from $596 million or 4.82% of total loans at the end of Q1. Finally, we booked a provision of $7.6 million up from $6.6 million in the prior quarter, driven primarily by loan growth. On slides fourteen and fifteen, provide details on total CRE and CRE investor office exposures. Total commercial real estate loans are $7.3 billion. Our exposure is largely within local markets we know well and is diversified by sector.The largest concentration is the multifamily at $2.6 billion, which is a strong asset class in Greater Boston due to the ongoing housing shortages. We have no multifamily nonperforming loans, and have had no charge-offs in this portfolio for well over the past decade. We remain focused on investor office loans. The portfolio of $828 million or 4% of the total loan book decreased $48 million linked quarter. Criticized and classified loans of $118 million or about 14% of total investor office loans improved from $163 million or 19% total investor loans as of March 31. In addition, our reserve level of 4.9% remains very conservative.The investor office loan portfolio includes our relatively limited exposure to the lab and life science sector, which consists of four loans totaling $99 million or less than 1% of total loans. Two of the loans are in Cambridge, one in Boston, and the other in Suburban Mass. None of these loans were originated as speculative construction transactions. All loans are accruing, and we continue to monitor these loans as part of our ongoing review of the office portfolio. We continue to take a proactive approach in managing investor office exposures. Our credit teams perform thorough assessments of the portfolio on a quarterly basis and on larger, lower risk, rated credits we conduct ongoing monthly reviews.This in-depth knowledge enables our credit team to take timely and decisive actions as reflected in this quarter's performance. On slide 16, we provide our updated full year 2025 outlook. Please note this outlook is for stand-alone Eastern and does not contemplate the impact of the Harbor One merger. We are raising our full year loan growth outlook to 3% to 5%, up from our previous guidance of 2% to 4%, reflecting strong results through the first six months. Deposit growth expectation of 0% to 1% is lower than the previous range of 1% to 2%. We continue to anticipate a favorable mix shift from CDs to money markets.Based on lower average deposit balances, we now expect net interest income to be in the range of $810 million to $820 million. A modest reduction from previous guidance. With FTE margin expectations remaining at 3.45% to 3.55%. While provision will be based on evolving credit trends, we currently anticipate the provision will end the year between $27 million and $32 million, an improvement from our original projection of $30 million to $40 million. We increased our forecast for operating fee income to $145 million to $150 million, up from $130 million to $140 million.Operating noninterest expense is now expected to end the year between $530 million and $540 million, an improvement from our previous range of $535 million to $555 million. Our expected full year operating tax rate has been revised to 21% to 22%, down from 22% to 23%. Finally, our current buyback authorization expires this month and we plan to seek regulatory approval for further share repurchases post the Harbor One close. We are committed to returning excess capital to shareholders through opportunistically repurchasing shares. Before opening up the call for questions, I'd like to take a moment and provide an update on our pending merger.In June, we filed all regulatory applications for our merger with Harbor One, and are working closely with regulators to obtain the necessary approvals. We continue to expect to receive approval and close the transaction in the fourth quarter. We also submitted our branch consolidation plans in connection with the merger. Given significant overlap between the two branch networks, we plan to consolidate 13 locations which includes six Eastern branches and seven from Harbor One. Pending regulatory approval, we anticipate beginning the consolidation process in Q1 2026. Integration planning is well underway. And we are very pleased with our progress. We remain focused on delivering a seamless transition for our customers, community partners, and employees. This concludes our comments.We will now open up the line for questions.Operator: At this time, if you would like to ask a question, press the pound key. Your first question comes from the line of Mark Fitzgibbon, Piper Sandler. Your line is open.Mark Fitzgibbon: Hey, guys. Good morning.Bob Rivers: Good morning, Mark. Hey, Mark.Mark Fitzgibbon: First question I had, maybe for you, David, is it likely that we'll see more securities portfolio restructurings in coming quarters? Sort of excluding the, you know, any things that you do related to the Harbor One deal?David Rosato: Possibly, Mark. When we think about the use of capital, we think about organic growth. We think about share buybacks. And we obviously think about balance sheet management, which would include the portfolio repositioning. I would say in the sequence of events, getting approval and getting back into the market to buy stock back comes first. With that said and based on interest rates, we do have the capital to pursue another restructuring but it's a little bit on the back burner right now just because of the merger and the fact that our current authorization expires at the end of the month.Mark Fitzgibbon: Okay. And then secondly, on the big drop you had in the NPLs this quarter was almost $40 million. Were there any loan sales, or those were just payoffs or something else?David Rosato: What I say is credit to our managed asset group. We worked through and did not sell, but worked through and resolved five credits in the quarter. And that was the driver.Mark Fitzgibbon: Okay. And then question is sort of more strategic. I don't know for Bob or Denis or both, but following the completion of the Harbor One deal, you'll have this new Rhode Island franchise. And I guess I'm curious, is the plan to potentially use that as a springboard to move south into places like Southern Rhode Island or Connecticut or maybe even eventually New York? Because I know historically, you've been a little more focused in sort of Eastern Massachusetts and concentrated there. But would you be open to sort of expanding the footprint to some new markets?Denis Sheahan: So, Mark, this is Denis. We certainly are welcoming the opportunity to engage in the Rhode Island market, and we will look to build out in that market both in terms of our commercial, our consumer businesses and our wealth management business. But we don't have plans to extend into Connecticut from a banking perspective. As you know, we already have a presence in Connecticut from a wealth management perspective. We're very happy with that. But beyond that, we don't currently have plans to expand banking services into Connecticut or down into New York. Certainly, would never say never, but it's not something that we're thinking about strategically at all at this point.Mark Fitzgibbon: Great. Thank you.David Rosato: Sure.Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Damon DelMonte, KBW. Your line is open.Damon DelMonte: Well, today, thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to talk a little bit about the strong C&I growth this quarter. Can you just give a little color as to what drove that kind of maybe what type of customers were taking on more credit? And, you know, were these new customers, or are these more of a utilization of lines that are currently in place?Denis Sheahan: Damon, so it's a combination of both, and what I would say is seeing, you know, while there still is some concern about economic volatility with tariffs and trade policy, etcetera, we're seeing increasing confidence from our customer base and in the market broadly. That, of course, is subject to change depending on what comes out of Washington. But certainly, part of the impetus for this growth is we have been adding talent consistently over the past year in our commercial lending division. We're very happy to do that. You know, the message that we've been delivering, both to our commercial division and to our customers is we are open for business. We are ready to grow.We have the capital to grow. We have the expertise. And it's beginning to bear fruit. You'll note, I think I said in my comments that the loan pipeline at the end of the second quarter is just as good as it was at the end of the first quarter. Summer is typically a little quieter, but heading into these summer months, we feel very good about that pipeline. So it's a combination of customer confidence and that we are investing more in growth within our commercial division.David Rosato: Damon, it's David. The only thing I would add to that was it was broad-based. In the first quarter, we did call out franchise as being a driver of growth. But in the second quarter, it was across what we would call all of our verticals within C&I, which was great to see.Damon DelMonte: Got it. Great. Appreciate that color. And then secondly, on the margin and the outlook, appreciate the reaffirmed guidance there. David, when we think about the core margin, so this quarter, you know, if you take out the fair value accretion, it was up about 13 basis points. You know, kind of what do you think about from a cadence standpoint going into the back half of the year over the next couple quarters? Maybe a few basis points of kind of grinding higher. Is that fair?David Rosato: Yeah. I think the margin honestly is gonna be kind of flattish in the back half of the year. I think about a lot of it is gonna be dependent on our ability on core deposit growth. Right? But away from that, we called out all the way back in January the securities repositioning. That's we now have a full margin impact of that. So that is tailwind. It has occurred. We do have a $2 to $2.5 billion swap book. That is just gonna start amortizing in the back half of the year. Relatively muted impact. So when I think about the third quarter impact of that, it's about $300,000. Pre-tax. It'll be more in the fourth quarter.And then lastly, the deposit the competitive market for deposits is heated up a bit from our original thinking. So we've experienced probably the most repricing down in our CD book that we'll see for the year. We're more neutral in the back half of the year from existing CDs versus market rates. So you put all that together and fixed rate commercial lending will have a positive role. Residential mortgage will have a positive role. But I do think the margin is roughly flattish rather than I don't wanna telegraph, you know, sequential increases each quarter at this point. The only caveat, and we benefited this quarter, was what's so hard to predict as accretion income.We had two large loans that paid off in June, and it juiced our margin in the quarter.Damon DelMonte: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And then just from, like, a modeling standpoint, is there any way we can any guidance on how to think about the rabbi trust income? And I guess, actually, I should ask. The guidance for the full year for fee income and expenses. That's based off of what you've already realized in Rabbi Trust income and expenses. Right? So would we imply, like, those are zero and they kinda net each other out? When we look at, like, the full year?David Rosato: Yeah. So from a macro perspective, positive equity markets lead to positive rabbi trust income. Meaning the liability side is more fixed. The asset size we have partial hedge on. And it's and most of that is equity-based. So we had a strong Q2 for equity market returns, and that led to positive change for rabbi trust income. Not a perfect hedge, you know? One goes through fees. We have the offset in the comp line. But if markets remain steady, for the back half of the year, the Rabbi Trust income and expense isn't that much of a needle mover either way. But when you have equities up or down, up is a positive impact.Down is a negative impact.Damon DelMonte: Got it. That's helpful. Okay. That's all that I had. Thank you very much.David Rosato: Thanks, Damon.Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Laurie Hunsicker, Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.Laurie Hunsicker: Hi. Thanks. Good morning, Denis and David. Just wanted to go back to where Damon was. So on margin, do you have a June spot margin?David Rosato: I have a June spot margin for you, Laurie. What I would say is what I wanna give you is a normalized June spot margin because as I said to Damon, we had two all the accretion income not all of it, but the positive differential linked quarter in accretion came in June. So if you normalize that for the quarter, the spot margin in June is 3.55. So that's four bps above the quarter average.Laurie Hunsicker: Okay. Great. Okay. And then going back to credit, in your credit, this was so, so good this quarter and office. You know, the drop in office nonperformers $42 million down to 10 and your criticized office going from $163 million down to $118 million. I'm looking on page 15 at your maturities. Are any of the $118 million in criticized office maturing in those next four quarters that you show on the maturity schedule?David Rosato: Yes. Like so we have I believe, if I'm going from memory here, one criticized loan, with that's in the neck has a maturity within the next year. Secrewing, but it's obviously it's office. There's some issues around it. So it is in there. That's why I was gonna call out when you look at that schedule, this is the first time since we've been showing that there's no NPLs. In or non-accruing loans in that next year of maturities.Laurie Hunsicker: Yeah. It's exciting. Okay. Great work. Okay. And then maybe just if you can sort of more broadly help us think about the FASB's proposed ASU with respect to the CECL double count, if you can just remind us in terms of, you know, what the tangible book pickup will look like, you know, just what the CECL double count is for past deal, current deal, pending, etcetera, and then what the earnings drop will be from the elimination of the non-PCB? Just how to think about all of that. Sure. And then just you're gonna be an early adopter. Is that correct?David Rosato: That would be our plan. You know, this whole thing is subject to being finalized. So if it is finalized before the year's over, we would plan to early adopt. And that would just to be clear, that only applies to Harbor One. Right? It's not retroactive to prior acquisitions.Laurie Hunsicker: Okay. Thank you for that clarification. Okay.David Rosato: So, for Harbor One versus what we originally announced around the deal, it's between one and one and a half percent less accretive. It's 1% reduction in tangible book value dilution. And from an earn-back perspective, it's about two-tenths of a year. So, really, not that material. For us on Harbor One, that non-PCD bark is about $42 million. That's what we was in the original deal announcement.Laurie Hunsicker: 42 okay. And sorry. That $42 million, that's an after-tax number?David Rosato: That's the pretax number.Laurie Hunsicker: Pretax.David Rosato: Okay. And we, you know, again, deal announcement, we assumed five years.Laurie Hunsicker: Five years. Gotcha. That's super helpful. Okay. Gotcha. And then one last one last question, Denis, going back to you, kinda back to where Mark was. Exploring what potential geography can you help us think about what your appetite would be for something like a New or a Maine? Would that would that be on the radar?Denis Sheahan: Thanks. Well, we already are in New Hampshire, Laurie. That's a terrific market for us both banking and wealth management. We have sizable operations in New Hampshire. So certainly, it's a market that we're looking forward to growing in. We do not have any operations in Maine at this point. We do some wealth management business in Maine just because our offices are so close, particularly to the Portland area, but we don't have strategically plans to expand into Maine at this point.Laurie Hunsicker: Okay. But would you I guess the question, would you consider an acquisition there? At some point in the near medium term if the opportunity presented would Maine be a market of interest or not so much?Denis Sheahan: So not at this point. You know, we again, you know, strategically, we're not planning to expand into Maine.Laurie Hunsicker: Okay. Great. For taking my questions.Denis Sheahan: You're welcome.Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Bob Rivers for closing remarks.Bob Rivers: Well, thank you everyone for your time and your interest this morning. And for your questions. Best wishes for a great rest of summer.Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.