都是刘强东逼的，同样是 1974 年的，2000 年左右创业，刘强东搞了一个千亿美金公司，李斌这次胆子就放大了，烧出核心竞争力，烧出万里长城。
刘强东都后悔当年钱太少了，只做了物流，本来应该同时做支付的，但是 2004 年时，他融不到那么多钱。马云的融资能力明显就比刘强东强的很多，说英语，了解美国人的文化，出过国，尝到过稀缺信息，稀缺技能带来的甜头。
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