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Here are incremental takeaways from Alibaba's post-earnings small-group meeting. Highlights below.
1) Most importantly, cloud revenue growth is guided to re-accelerate to ~50% next quarter, with further acceleration thereafter. This alleviates concerns around ROI.
2) Losses at AI Lab should narrow. But they will likely remain around RMB 10bn per quarter.
3) ARR from AI-related revenue was RMB 49.5bn this quarter (quarterly revenue × 4). The Sep quarter ARR could exceed $10bn.
4) Excluding the impact of consolidating T-Head (Pingtouge), cloud margins would be higher, and the path to a 20% long-term OPM would be faster. This underscores improving profitability in core cloud.
5) On revenue sharing for open-source models, payouts to model developers are minimal. Aside from small splits on models like K3, revenue in most cases accrues 100% to Alibaba.
6) Management roughly expects FCF to turn positive by FY29. This implies better cash conversion ahead.
7) The Intl commerce business was profitable this quarter. This marks a notable milestone.
Other items broadly in line with prior expectations include the following. Details as follows.
1) The MaaS annualized revenue target remains RMB 30bn by year-end and could be achieved earlier. It is currently around RMB 16bn.
2) Unit economics (UE) in the flash-sales biz. will keep improving. Management maintains the expectation of achieving profitability by FY29.
3) E-commerce CMR and EBITDA growth will improve next quarter. No specific magnitude was provided.
Overall, the tone in the small-group session was more upbeat and explicit than in the main meeting. Core messages: cloud growth and margins should keep moving higher, while broader commerce growth and profitability should bottom and begin to improve, likely modestly.
Dolphin Research's expected combo of e-commerce stabilization plus an AI offensive was effectively confirmed by the company. That strengthens the bullish case.
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