Marcus Q1 2026 Earnings Call: Complete Transcript

Marcus (NYSE:MCS) held its first-quarter earnings conference call on Thursday. Below is the complete transcript from the call. This transcript is brought to you by Benzinga APIs. For real-time access to our entire catalog, please visit https://www.benzinga.com/apis/ for a consultation. Access the full call at https://events.q4inc.com/attendee/699595202 Summary Marcus reported a 3.8% increase in consolidated revenues for Q1 2026, with adjusted EBITDA up by $2.9 million year-over-year despite a challenge of having five fewer operating days. The theater division saw a 6.4% revenue increase, outperforming the industry due to a strong film slate and strategic pricing actions, while the hotel division achieved a 13.7% increase in RevPAR despite a weaker ski season. Future outlook appears positive with a strong upcoming film slate for theaters and continued demand for renovated hotel properties, though economic uncertainties like travel costs could impact performance. Management highlighted successful strategic initiatives like the rollout of tap-to-pay and mobile food ordering in theaters, and noted a significant increase in free cash flow due to reduced capital expenditures. Operationally, the company is focused on leveraging its renovated assets and maintaining a balanced approach to capital allocation, including share repurchases and strategic investments. Full Transcript Ellie (Operator) Good morning everyone and welcome to Marcus Corporation first quarter earnings conference call. My name is Ellie and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session toward the end of this conference. If at any time during the call you require assistance, please press star and then 0 and an operator will be happy to assist you. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Joining us today are Greg Marcus, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer and Chad Paris, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer of Marcus Corporation. At this time, I'd now like to turn the program over to Chad Paris for his opening remarks. Please go ahead sir. Chad Paris (Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer) Good morning and welcome to our 2026 first quarter conference call. I need to begin by stating that we plan to make a number of forward looking statements on our call today which may be identified by our use of words such as believe, anticipate, expect or other similar words. Our forward looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties which may cause our actual results to differ materially from those expected or projected in our forward looking statements. These statements are only made as of the date of this conference call and we disclaim any obligation to publicly update such forward looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. The risks and uncertainties which could impact our ability to achieve our expectations identified in our forward looking statements are included under the heading Forward Looking Statements in the press release issued this morning announcing our 2026 first quarter results and in the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10K which you can access on the SEC's website. Additionally, we refer you to the disclosures and reconciliations we provided in today's earnings press release regarding the use of adjusted EBITDA, a non GAAP financial measure, in evaluating our performance and its limitations, a copy of which is available on the investor relations page of our website@investors.marcus corp.com all right, let's begin this morning. I'll start by spending a few minutes sharing the results from our first quarter with you and discuss our balance sheet and liquidity. I'll then turn the call over to Greg who will focus his prepared remarks on where our businesses are today and what we are seeing ahead. We'll then open up the call for questions. I'll begin with an important reminder about our fiscal calendar that impacted our first quarter year over year comparisons. The first quarter of fiscal 2025 was the first quarter of transition to a calendar fiscal year and included five days at the beginning of the quarter during the week between the Christmas and New Year's holidays at the end of calendar 2024 that are significant days in our theater division in fiscal 2026 and going forward. The first quarter began on January 1st and as a result our first quarter results faced the headwind of having 5 fewer operating days when compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025 going forward. Our year over year quarterly comparisons will now be aligned ending on traditional calendar quarters. On the call today, I'll provide the as reported year over year changes in our results as well as the growth on a comparable calendar quarter basis excluding the impact of the extra days in the prior year to provide an apples to apples comparison. As you would expect, our growth for the comparable calendar quarter is even stronger than our as reported results. We are very pleased to report that we were able to overcome this headwind to deliver another quarter of solid execution and results with both divisions growing year over year revenue and an overall increase in adjusted EBITDA in theaters. A significantly better first quarter film slate with improved product supply and better carryover of holiday films drove significant attendance and revenue growth leading to our overall improved results. In our hotel division. We continued to see year over year improvement in revpar and occupancy as we benefited from our renovated hotel assets being fully operational. Shifting to the numbers, I'll start with a few highlights from our consolidated Results. For the first quarter of 2026, consolidated revenues of 1:54.4 million increased 5.6 million or 3.8% compared to the prior year quarter. With revenue growth in both divisions. The 5 fewer operating days negatively impacted consolidated revenue growth by 15.3 million on a comparable calendar quarter basis. Excluding this impact, Consolidated revenues increased 20.9 million or 15.6%. Operating loss for the quarter was 19.3 million, an improvement of 1.2 million compared to the prior year. First quarter. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was 2.6 million, an increase of 2.9 million over the first quarter of fiscal 2025. The year over year improvements in both operating loss and adjusted EBITDA were negatively impacted by 5.3 million due to the fewer operating days on a comparable calendar quarter basis. Adjusted EBITDA grew 8.2 million. Turning to our segment results, I'll start with our theater division. First quarter 2026 total revenue of 92.9 million increased 5.6 million or 6.4% compared to the prior year. First, the 5 fewer operating days negatively impacted theaters revenue growth by 12.2 million on a comparable calendar quarter basis. Excluding this impact, theaters revenues increased 17.8 million, or 23.6% for our fiscal first quarter 2026, Comparable theater admission revenue increased 9.8% and Comparable theater attendance increased 1.9% compared with our fiscal first quarter 2025 on a calendar quarter basis. First quarter 2026 Comparable theater admission revenue increased 29% and Comparable theater attendance increased 19.1% compared to the prior year. First calendar quarter when using our comparable fiscal days according to data received from Comscore and compiled by us to evaluate our 2026 first quarter results, U.S. box office receipts increased 5% during our 2026 first quarter compared to box office receipts during our fiscal 2025 first quarter, indicating our theaters outperformed the industry by approximately 4.8 percentage points. On a straight calendar quarter basis, we also outperformed the US box office by 7.6 percentage points. We believe our outperformance is primarily attributed to our strategic pricing actions and as well as a favorable film slate that featured several titles appealing to family audiences, our genre where our circuit typically performs very well. Average admission price increased 7.8% during the first quarter of 2026 compared to last year, benefiting from strategic ticket price optimization actions, an increased percentage of ticket sales from premium large format screens, and a favorable daypart ticket mix. Our average concession, food and beverage revenues per person at our comparable theaters increased by 2.4% during the first quarter of 2026 compared to last year's first quarter, which was primarily due to increases in movie themed merchandise sales and incidence rate as well as inflationary price changes. Our top 10 films in the quarter represented approximately 62% of the box office in the first quarter of 2026 compared to approximately 66% for the top 10 films in the first quarter last year. With film costs as a percentage of admission revenues effectively flat for the first quarter compared to the prior year. Theater division adjusted EBITDA during the first quarter of 2026 was 8 million, an increase of 4.3 million. The year over year increase in adjusted EBITDA was negatively impacted by 5 million due to the fewer operating days and on a comparable calendar quarter basis, theater division adjusted EBITDA increased 9.3 million. Turning to our hotels and resorts, division revenues were 61.4 million for the first quarter of 2026, up 100,000 compared to the prior year. Total revenue before cost reimbursements at our seven owned hotels decreased 600,000, or 1.1% compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025. The five fewer operating days negatively impacted hotels revenue growth by approximately 3.1 million on a comparable calendar quarter basis. Excluding this impact, hotels revenue before cost reimbursements increased 2.5 million or 5.1%. RevPAR for Comparable Owned Hotels grew 13.7% during the first quarter compared to the prior year, which resulted from an overall occupancy rate increase of 8.9 percentage points, partially offset by a 3.4% decrease in our average daily rate or ADR. Our average 2026 first quarter occupancy rate for our owned hotels was 59.2%. Our occupancy rate increase benefited from the Hilton Milwaukee being fully back in service compared to the first quarter last year when the hotel was under renovation and guest rooms were out of service. We estimate that the impact of the renovation in the prior year favorably impacted our REVPAR growth by approximately 4 percentage points during the first quarter. According to data received from Smith Travel Research, comparable competitive hotels in our markets experienced a decrease in RevPAR of 2.9% during the fiscal first quarter of 2026 compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025, indicating that our hotels outperformed their competitive set by 16.6 percentage points. After adjusting for the prior year impact of the Hilton Milwaukee renovation, we believe our hotel's RevPAR growth outperformed the competitive sets by 11.5 percentage points, which we attribute to continued strength in group business as well as generally strong performance from our renovated assets. When comparing our REVPAR results to comparable upper upscale hotels throughout the United States, the upper upscale segment experienced an increase in RevPAR of 3.9% during our first quarter compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025, indicating that our hotels outperformed the industry by 9.8 percentage points and by 5.8 percentage points when adjusting for the estimated prior year impact of the renovation. Food and beverage revenues decreased 2.1% in the first quarter of 2026 compared to the prior year and were negatively impacted by the decrease in operating days. Hotels other revenues decreased by 1.4 million or 9.2%, primarily due to a weaker ski season at Grand Geneva Resort and Spa and the impact of fees generated from an all hotel group buyout at one of our condo hotel properties in the first quarter of fiscal 2025, an event that doesn't happen every year and did not RECUR in the first quarter of 2026. Finally, hotels adjusted EBITDA decreased 1.3 million in the first quarter of 2026 compared to the prior year quarter, primarily due to a $400,000 impact from the five fewer operating days, lower other revenues resulting from the weaker ski season and the non repeating group buyout in the prior year which included high margin rooms and banquet and catering business and higher benefits Cost Shifting to Cash Flow and the Balance Sheet Our cash flow from operations was a use of cash of 15.2 million in the first quarter of 2026 compared to cash used by operations of 35.3 million in the prior year quarter, with the increase in cash used primarily due to favorable timing of payments and accounts payable, higher EBITDA and a one time benefit of 3 million from the sale of historic tax credits related to the Hilton Milwaukee renovation. As a reminder, our cash flow from operations in the first quarter is historically impacted by seasonal changes in working capital resulting from the slowdown in our business following the peak holiday season and by the timing of various year end accounts payable and compensation payments. Total capital expenditures during the first quarter of 2026 were $6.6 million, a $16.4 million decrease compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025. Our capital expenditures during the first quarter were primarily invested in maintenance and ROI projects in both businesses. Our capital investments and projects have progressed as planned and we continue to expect capital expenditures for 2026 of 50 to 55 million and we will update our capital expenditure estimates throughout the year. As we discussed last quarter, we continue to expect this decrease in capital expenditures to result in a significant increase in free cash flow in 2026 and this played out as expected in the first quarter with a $36.5 million improvement in free cash flow compared to the prior year. Our balance sheet remains strong and we ended the first quarter with over $11 million in cash and over $194 million in total liquidity with a debt to capitalization ratio of 28% and net leverage of 1.7 times. Our strong balance sheet and confidence in our businesses gives us the ability to continue investing in our businesses and pursuing growth while returning capital to shareholders through our quarterly dividend and opportunistic share repurchases. During the first quarter we repurchased approximately 87,000 shares of our common stock for 1.3 million in cash. We will continue to allocate capital with a balanced approach that supports our strategic priorities while pursuing investments that provide the most attractive long term returns to shareholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to Greg. OPERATOR Thanks Chad. Good morning everyone. We entered the year with a plan for projected growth in both of our businesses in theaters. We expected a stronger film slate in 2026 coupled with improvements in per capita sales to drive growth in the theater division in hotels, we expected our recently renovated properties to drive outperformance within our competitive sets. After several years of significant investment in an overall stable macroeconomic environment, we're happy to report that the first quarter generally played out a little better than we expected with strong outperformance in both divisions. Theaters led the growth and improvement in our results on a better than expected box office and hotels continued to grow revpar and revenue without performance being driven by our renovated hotels. As Chad discussed, we were able to overcome the headwind from having fewer operating days in the quarter, which was no small feat considering the week of the year that those days fell in the first quarter last year. With the normal seasonal headwinds. In our hotel business, the first quarter is always challenging, so it's incredibly helpful when we're able to get off to a good start as we did this quarter. The first quarter that we are reporting today continues to make year over year progress and we're pleased to be sharing these results with you. I'll start with our theater division. Our theater division got off to a much stronger start than last year and what a difference a year makes. A stronger film slate drove significantly higher attendance for the comparable quarter with a combination of solid carryover performances from several holiday films, successful original family films in Hoppers and Goat, and a major tentpole in Project Hail Mary that delivered blockbuster results, all contributing to deliver the best first quarter in the US Box office since the pandemic. This quarter was a great reminder of what is possible with better product supply when there are several things working at once. It also demonstrates that audiences will come out whenever there are good movies, not just during the peak summer and holiday periods and the industry needs to continue to fill in the slate across the calendar. The first quarter national box office was up over 21% and there is still a lot more opportunity for further growth with additional product in the future. As Chad discussed, we continued to realize strong per capita growth during the quarter with average ticket prices benefiting from our ongoing price optimization efforts and continued growth in merchandise sales which are included in our concession revenues. Last quarter I shared several initiatives we are executing this year to drive per capita sales growth. As an update, we have now completed our rollout of tap to pay terminals to all ticketing and food and beverage points of sale both in store and our mobile wallets for our digital purchasing channels. This week we will complete the rollout of in C QR code mobile food and beverage ordering to all 20 of our dine in theaters which we believe makes food ordering faster and easier for customers. Looking ahead, we continue to work redesigning a best in class food and beverage digital purchase experience in our mobile web and app for all theater locations that we expect to roll out in time for the holidays later this year. A couple of weeks ago we were with our theater team at Cinemacon and once again our studio partners, film directors and talent all continue to reaffirm the importance of theatrical exhibition and our critical role to the overall movie and ecosystem. After years of experimentation and discussion around the length of the exclusive theatrical window, I believe we have reached an inflection point and recognition by studios and distributors that a longer theatrical window enhances the overall performance of films across the ecosystem and we applaud the significant announcements from major studios including Universal, Sony and Paramount, extending or committing to minimum exclusive theatrical Windows While the industry has more work to do on windows and improving product supply, we are heading in the right direction. Second, we got a closer look at the film slate for the rest of the year and into 2027 and we remain very optimistic about the coming attractions. The momentum from the first quarter continued into April with the blockbuster success of Super Mario Galaxy Movie and last weekend's record opening of Michael getting the second quarter off to a solid start. We kick off the summer movie season this week with the opening of The Devil Wears Prada 2, which will be followed by a number of big titles including Mortal Kombat 2, Star wars, the Mandalorian and Grogu, Supergirl the Odyssey and Brand New Day. I am particularly excited for the widely appealing family features such as Toy Story 5, Minions and Monsters and Moana. The fall and holiday film slate is also exciting with Avengers, Doomsday, Dune Part 3 and Jumanji Open World, just to name a few. There are many more great films coming noted in today's earnings release. Look even looking even Further ahead, the 2027 film slate also looks strong with major franchises including Shrek 5, Star Wars, Starfighter Minecraft 2, Frozen 3, the Batman Part 2, Sonic the Hedgehog 4, Spider Man, beyond the Spider Verse, man of Tomorrow, the Legend of Zelda, Avengers, Secret wars and many more. We are excited about the momentum that is building in theaters and the film slate ahead in the coming years and we remain very positive and optimistic about the long term future for the industry and our theater business. Excuse me, moving to our hotel and resorts division. You've seen the segment numbers and Chad shared some additional detail on the performance metrics including our outperformance to our competitive sets and to upper upscale hotels. Nationally, we have made significant investments in several of our hotels over the last three years and we continue to see customer demand for newly renovated room product and freshly redesigned meeting and event spaces. These amenities allow us to drive strong rates and outperform within our markets and our sales teams have done a great job capitalizing on this opportunity. As we've discussed in past years, there is significant seasonality in our hotel business. Given that most of our company owned hotels are located in the Midwest, we often lose money in this division during the winter months as was the case this year with adjusted EBITDA that was slightly negative. In addition to having fewer days in the quarter, there were headwinds from a few Items in the first quarter of fiscal 2025, including Milwaukee hosting the men's NCAA basketball tournament and all school and I'm sorry, an all hotel group buyout at one of our condo hotels last year and favorable weather for ski season that did not recur this year in the first quarter. This is the nature of event driven and group rooms business and while we did not see these events repeat this year, these are similar events will likely return in the coming years. There were a few notable items in the quarter I would like to highlight. While average daily rates decreased around 3% in the first quarter, this was not unexpected and was primarily driven by two factors. First, all of the Hilton Milwaukee rooms were back in service resulting in less rate pressure with more room supply. This contrasts with last year when we were able to create some rate compression in the Milwaukee market with the reduced available room count due to renovation. And second, at Grand Geneva, the weaker ski season resulted in weekend transient demand that was softer and resulted in lower rates compared with last year. The decrease in rates was more than offset by the significant increase in occupancy from the Hill at Milwaukee rooms back in service resulting in overall RevPAR growth of 13.7%. Group bookings remain stable with our group room revenue bookings for 2026 or group pace in the year for the year running approximately 5% ahead of where we were at this time last year. Looking a bit Further ahead to 2027, group room pace is running in line with where we were at this time last year for the next year out. Although this far out, the timing of bookings can vary significantly. Banquet and catering space for the remainder of 2026 is running in line with where we were at this time last year. As our hotel division heads into the busier spring and summer travel months, we believe we are well positioned to win in our markets While transient demand has remained healthy, it is important to acknowledge there continues to be an elevated level of economic uncertainty with recent volatility and key travel costs, including gas prices and airfare. If market conditions change and we begin to see softness, we are prepared to react and adjust quickly. Before we open the call up for questions, I want to once again thank all the people that work so hard every single day making our ordinary days extraordinary for our guests. We talk a lot about the investments that we make in our businesses, but we can never lose sight of the fact that our people are our most important asset. And they proved it once again this quarter. With that at this time, Chad and I'd be happy to open the call up for any questions you may have. Thank you. We are now opening the floor for question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star and then one on your telephone keypad. That's star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Drew from B. Riley securities. Your line is now open. Drew Okay, thanks. Hey, guys. Good morning, Greg. You provided an update in your preamble on the various initiatives you've rolled out or plan to launch over the course of the year to drive concession revenue. Any early learnings or observations you can share the overall receptivity on the part of your patrons of these and maybe for chad, is the 2% concession per capita rate reported 1Q, a good quarterly run rate to think of as you progress through the year? Mike Hickey I'll go first with the question on what we're seeing. We see a number of things. One is the QR codes are being very well accepted and we're happy with how that's going. That makes for a better experience for everybody. If nothing else, we get better customer service because it's really interesting. You know, one of the things that can happen is if you order and you don't sit in the right seat and then your food is delivered to the seat that you ordered it to, you don't get your product and then everybody's unhappy. And so we were seeing better efficiency, if nothing else, with people going to their seat and they. Or because the QR code is linked to their seat, so the food arrives, it arrives hot, and it just makes the whole operation much better. So that. That's very helpful. You know, the other thing that we've seen, and I don't have a number to give you yet, but that, you know, I think we've talked about before, one of the, you know, I talked about how we're we're really working to develop a best in class a food and beverage experience for our customers, ordering experience digitally because we know that basket sizes are larger when people order digitally. And we primarily that comes from, you know, that, that never missing on, on, you know, whether it's an upsell. You know, if you've got, you know, 10 people deep in a concession line, you're just, you're just trying to get through a Friday night. You may not be, you know, you may not always try to upsell that medium soda to a large. But digital, it never misses. And we have a whole, I think we can't do, even live. It's a last chance offer, last time offer we call it. So before you check out, oh, you know, do you want a popcorn with that soda? Do you want whatever it might be with that, a dessert with your food. And so we're able to do that suggestive selling and upselling much better digitally. So we feel with that and then making the whole experience more frictionless for the customer, we're going to have an opportunity to increase our concession sales. Yeah, Drew, on the concessions per capita increase, we said last quarter we're trying to get to low single digits. We were at 2.4% in the quarter. I think that kind of two to three ranges is probably about right. And in terms of the way we're getting there, we're trying to get to that 3% with just inflationary pricing and growing another point or so with the results of some of the initiatives that Greg's just talked about by increasing it in incidents and by increasing basket size. So that's, I think that's a reasonable number for purposes of modeling. Got it. Okay, thank you. Very helpful. And then just one follow up on the hotels business. Can you address the divergence between rooms and food and beverage revenue? I think you mentioned there were fewer operating days that impacted the food and beverage figure. But was there anything else that drove the divergence between the two? There was the one item that sticks out aside from the days difference, which some of those days come between the holidays and we actually do get a fair amount of F and B business in that period. But the all group hotel buyout that we had in one of our properties that I mentioned in my remarks actually had a very heavy FNB component. That's a piece of business that we don't get every year. We had it last year, we had it three years earlier. It's on its own cycle. And so that had a heavier FNB impact than we normally would have had. Got it. Okay, thanks, guys. Your next question comes from the line of Mike Hickey of Stonex. Your line is now open. Hey, Greg, Chad. Congrats guys on a grade one Q. And thanks for taking our questions here. Just a few. First on windows. Greg, good to hear from you that you're excited. I think, you know, last year there was some big plans, but I think we felt stuck too, on windows. Moving anywhere. Positive. So just curious how impactful you think this new Windows is sort of when you think the consumer's behavior might change and maybe the future of Windows. Because it seems like this year at Cinemacon, there were a few studios talking, maybe even longer windows. Yeah, look, I start with, you know, using what's the, what's the word in the financial community. The trend is your friend. You know, I'd say that the trend is our friend here. This is. And, but it didn't just happen over overnight. I credit Michael o' Leary at Cinema United with really starting to really raise the issue publicly a year ago at Cinemacon and saying this is really important. So this is not something that happened overnight. It's an education. It's an understanding. It's the evidence that we see on the importance of a window. And let's be very clear, the studios control the window. And the studios are not doing it, you know, just out of charity. The theater business, they, they know that, you know, a healthy theatrical business is good for the overall ecosystem and, and, and it maximizes the value of their product. That whole concept that we've talked about many times, we know windowing, you know, the selling the same thing to the same person over and over again. Well, if you, if you mash those windows too tight together, you lose that second or third or fourth sale. But if you create some space, you know, not only do you get people who pay more, because remember the other, the other concept of windowing, it's important, is a high that you start with your highest per capita set of eyeballs. And to the extent that you, that you trade, you know, one somebody paying, you know, $12, 10 day or 15, that whatever it might be to, you know, putting, you know, five people in a room splitting $20, it's a much better deal to, to, to have to catch those per capita eyeballs, if nothing else, and then you get that second sale on top of it or that third sale when somebody consumes it in a transactional video on demand or a streaming view on demand environment. And so, you know, I thought that the, you know, and the other thing too is you you don't have people saying, well I'll just wait for it at home. And we've been very, you know, very clear to say that that very short 17 day window is one of. The contributor was one of the contributors to this idea that because people don't, they're not paying enough attention. They just hear at home now they don't know that it's $20. They get something in their email saying hey, you know, get it now. It doesn't say it's. And they maybe don't pay enough attention. It just feels like it's coming so fast. So stretching that out, continuing to educate the customer that is stretched out is really important and universal in this. Who just recently made the announcement that they are going to move back from their pandemic era experimentation and go to a stand, go to 45 days. I thought was unbelievably important. Signals that. And you've got Tom Rothman at Sony saying it's real. Theatrical is important. And for theatrical to be healthy, it has to have a window. And so as Steven Spielberg said, 45 days is a good start, but how about 60 or more? And I would simply say, you know, an easy way to explain that I think is my Mantra should be 2 and 5. What's 2 and 5? Two months for transactional, five months for streaming video on demand. So I'm, I'm for the 2 and 5 model. Very simple to understand for everybody. And, and I think it will be good for theatrical and what's good for theatrical be good for the overall ecosystem. Nice. Thanks for the call out Greg. The obviously on the concession side, you really been doing some cool tech. It looks like you're getting progress there. Curious on the seating side if you see any sort of innovation or enhancements you could do on seating. And also curious about the Infinity Vision. Looks like sort of a mixed reception from operators on Disney's certification. Well, you know the, on the. Let's start with the seating. Any new seating stuff that, you know, there's D-Box, there's things like that that can be experimented with. There's things we can do. Nothing, I don't think there's anything huge that we're going to be able to do. We've had others experiment with just charging more for premium seats and I don't know that went so well but, but on the, on the inside. So I don't, you know, so they'll be on the margins maybe a little bit here and there, but nothing, nothing earth shattering in the recliner. Investment we made was so significant. And, you know, for us, it was great. We made ours in with, you know, 2,000, let's call $15. So, you know, that's. That, I think has been very helpful for us. The, on the, on the Disney thing, you know, I'm not familiar with the exact details of it, although look at, you know, the ability to brand PLFs. It's very interesting if you think about it. I think the pl, you know, taking out IMAX out of the plf. IMAX is a plf, but taking IMAX out, I think that the footprint of PLFs in the country is, you know, double IMAX in size. And so, you know, on any given weekend, the ability to unify that marketing effort. I understand why Disney is, is trying to do what they're trying to do now. Whether they'll be the ones to do it, I don't know. But. But there's power. You know, when you speak with one voice, you speak louder. You know, everyone getting together to speak with one voice is much more effective. And so I see, I understand what they're trying to do. Whether that's the model that works, I don't know. But I'm. But I'm not against the idea. And so that's my feeling on that. Nice. Last question on free cash flow. Obviously it looks like you're inflecting this year. Just curious, Chad. Your confidence there, obviously that's really resonating with investors. So post one Q after a strong quarter, I'm guessing you're more enthusiastic, but love to hear from you and then how you're thinking about carrying that into 27. Thanks, guys. Eric Wald Yeah, Mike, I think we feel really good about it because we control the Capex spend. We've got a $30 million planned decrease with our current guide on Capex, and so that alone will provide a meaningful uplift. And that's if the business is flat and we don't expect the business to be flat and getting off to a really good start in Q1 certainly helps. So three quarters to go. But in terms of confidence, I feel good. Oh, I want to, I want to just build one. I want to add one thing, Mike, on your question about premium large format, and that is one thing let's not lose sight of. And that is still 80% of our business is regular, you know, traditional screens. And that's a customer that we, you know, theatrical has always been known as the, you know, the least expensive form of out of home entertainment. It's a cheap date, so to speak. And I think we always have to Remember that. And I think in our theater, specific to our platform, we have a. We probably the highest incidence of PLF in the industry, and yet we also have a very robust discount program with our Tuesday program and our Marcus movie club. And I like to think about it as we've talked about this before, learnings from our hotel business, you know, the right price for the right customer at the right time. And so our averages look sort of in line, but I think that our. We offer a real wide breadth of opportunity for our customers. Great. Thanks, guys. Good luck. Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wald of Texas Capital Securities. Your line is now open. Thanks. Thanks, guys. A couple of questions, I guess first on the, on the hotel and resorts division. Now that you've completed the renovation of the Hilton Milwaukee, let me talk about the level of rate hikes that your rate increases roommate increases that you're looking to kind of push through. And you have pushed through at that property maybe around both kind of group and leisure travel and how that compares to kind of what you're able to push through following the Pfister renovation a couple of years ago. Chad Paris (Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer) Yeah, I can. I can take that one. So we absolutely have seen uplift from both group events that were able to win and book into renovated properties. We're winning that business and we're getting a uplift in transient rates that's driving growth in ADR at those properties. As a general rule, Eric, I would say we're in the range of 10 to 15% on rates after we do make rooms renovations like this. And that's across our experience on the three major renovated properties, the Pfister, Grand Geneva and now Hilton Milwaukee. But there's no doubt once the customer knows that room product has been refreshed and you are the desired asset in the market to stay at, you get to take share and you're commanding premium rates to do so. Eric Wald Got it. And have you seen any reaction from others in the market on their pricing when you've taken rate changes, or are they kind of playing catch up a little bit given the lack of remodel? Chad Paris (Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer) I can start and then Greg can add his thoughts. I mean, I think at the end of the day, it's a perceived value on the quality of the product and the customer is making a choice on what experience they want to have. And it's a dynamic pricing business. We're continuously adjusting prices based on where we see that demand. And I think others in the market are doing the same. And so we're able to capture a Premium because there is demand for the renovated product. I would believe that others are hurting from that loss of demand and they're adjusting prices to try to capture volume. Joe, the other thing that could happen is it may not look on its face as if the rates are going up as much because it can also be a mix of business thing too that you may not see just looking at the rates. And so our rates do go up Eric Wald and you can't see it specifically in a Star report because they don't divulge Chad Paris (Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer) the specific hotels rates. Eric Wald But you know, you can see that Chad Paris (Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer) our, our rates are improving because we're moving out lower rated business out of a hotel like the Hilton where we have so many rooms and we're able to, to move that business, that lower rated business out. Got it. And then just the last question. Have a follow up on the free class, free cash flow question from, from earlier. You know, given kind of the understanding is kind of a relative lack of, you know, transaction activity in both, both the exhibition and hotel segments. You know, how aggressive would you be willing to be on, on share repurchases as that cash flow grows? Do you feel you need to build up a war chest in case, you know, transaction activity picks up or you kind of really comfortable where your leverage is and you know, possibly leveraging up for the right, for the right opportunity? Yeah, I think we tend to have a very balanced approach. We're opportunistic when we see really attractive opportunities to buy back shares. We've leaned in and we've done that. But we are trying to maintain some dry powder to give us the ability to go and move quickly, which I think is one of our advantages in M and A. And you know, we have seen across both businesses some activity and you know, so far nothing has resulted in deals. But we're trying to maintain a balance. Eric Wald Thank you both. OPERATOR If you'd like to ask a question, please press Star followed by one on your telephone keypad. That's Star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Patrick Scholl of Barrington Research. Your line is now open. Patrick Scholl Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I was just wondering if you could maybe talk about how you're evaluating the leased footprint of your theaters and maybe just in general, kind of with the box office expectations for 2026 and 2027, how do you kind of just evaluate the overall screen base, both within Marcus, but also kind of the industry overall? Chad Paris (Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer) Well, I'll take the first part of that question on our footprint And Greg can layer on about the industry. I mean, portfolio management is an ongoing part of our operating process. Really. We're constantly looking at the store level performance of all of our locations. Both our own real estate, which is a little over 60% of our theater screens, even higher percentage of our cash flow in that business, and then our lease locations as well. And as leases mature, that gives you the opportunity to reevaluate investment in those properties and renegotiate terms, which tends to be necessary because many of the leases were negotiated on a pre pandemic box office. Greg Marcus (Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer) And so that's an ongoing process. Historically, we've had a preference to own real estate, but we've certainly done M and A where often you're looking at acquiring leases as part of the deal. So it's more about what's the actual financial performance, whether it's after rent or after a return on our invested capital in the real estate is, is how we look at it, you know, and overall, you know, it is. We've talked about this before. There's a lot of leases that are very expensive compared to the level of business which, you know, leads me to the point of. There's been, we talked earlier about windows. Two factors that would really be. There will be very helpful to getting the business, you know, in a, in a, in a good place and that is in a better place. And that is one, it would be to have windows extend and the other is getting enough product in the pipeline and enough product on the shelves right now, you know, we've got, we've got some room on the shelves. And so to the extent that we can get a full year's calendar's worth of films, you know, that will drive, you know, more sales and then those leases will start to look better. Otherwise people will be trying to figure out, you know, what, what to do with some of the space in their theaters, you know, to the, some of the bigger ones. We've been, we are different. We've been very conservative about how big we build our theaters for the most part. And so we don't, we don't see that as much. And then maybe just on, on concessions to the extent that like the, the film slate is a, you know, healthy contributor to incidents or on the merchandise side, I guess when you look at the upcoming film slate or maybe just sort of like the broader expansion of that film slate, as the film slate kind of like broadens out, do you think it would be similarly supportive of concession per cap or do you think that could, as it maybe expands out, would that be, you know, like a headwind or is that, you know, probably just too soon to tell. And your question, Pat, is specifically around merchandise, broader concession activity. It all depends on the mix of films. You know, the right mix of films will drive better per cap film. That that really is what, what it comes down to in any given year. I think you and but over time that does tend to even itself out. I don't think there's anything that would more films wouldn't drive down per cap. Okay, right. And then, and then was because merchandise is a component of of our concessions and food and beverage per cap merchandise tends to lend itself to more event driven type of product. And so in any given period when we've got a heavy mix of big event films, we are seeing more merchandise sales that provide some uplift in those periods. Which it gets back to Greg's point on product mix being part of this. Okay, thank you. OPERATOR Thank you. At this time, it appears that there are no other questions. I'd now like to turn the call back to Mr. Paris for any additional or closing remarks. We'd like to thank you once again for joining us today. We look forward to talking to you again in early August when we release our 2026 second quarter results. Until then, thank you and have a good day. That concludes today's call. Disclaimer: This transcript is provided for informational purposes only. While we strive for accuracy, there may be errors or omissions in this automated transcription. 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