Full Transcript: ON Semiconductor Q1 2026 Earnings Call

On Monday, ON Semiconductor (NASDAQ:ON) discussed first-quarter financial results during its earnings call. The full transcript is provided below. This transcript is brought to you by Benzinga APIs. For real-time access to our entire catalog, please visit https://www.benzinga.com/apis/ for a consultation. View the webcast at https://edge.media-server.com/mmc/p/62mp4a93 Summary ON Semiconductor reported Q1 2026 revenue of $1.51 billion, with non-GAAP EPS of $0.64, both exceeding guidance midpoints. The company experienced strong growth in AI data centers, automotive, and industrial segments, with AI data center revenue projected to double in 2026. Gross margin expanded to 38.5%, marking the third consecutive quarter of improvement, and is expected to continue growing throughout the year. Strategic initiatives include ramping Trio products across automotive and AI applications, with significant design wins in these areas. Management highlighted a positive demand environment, with signs of recovery across key markets and ongoing investments in power and sensing technologies. Full Transcript OPERATOR Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the ON Semiconductor first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised to withdraw your question. Please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Parag Agarwal, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead. Parag Agarwal (Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development) Thank you. Daniel Good after and thank you for joining ON Semiconductor's first quarter results conference call. I'm joined today by Hassan Al Khoury, our President and CEO and Thad Trent, our CFO. This call is being webcast on the Investor Relations section of our website@www.onsemi.com. a replay of this webcast along with our first quarter earnings release will be available on our website approximately one hour following this conference call and the recorded webcast will be available for approximately 30 days following this conference call. Additional information is posted on the Investor Relations section of our website. Our earnings release and this presentation includes certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and a discussion of certain limitations when using non GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release which is posted separately on our website in the Investor Relations section. During the course of this conference call, we'll make projections or other forward looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. We wish to caution that such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from projections. Important factors that can affect our business, including factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward looking statements, are described in Our most recent Form 10K, Form 10-Qs and other filings with the securities and Exchange Commission and in our earnings release for the first quarter, our estimates or other forward looking statements might change and the Company assumes no obligation to update forward looking statements to reflect actual results, change assumptions or other events that may occur except as required by law. Now let me turn it over to Hassan. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Hassan thank you Parag Good afternoon to everyone on the call and thank you for joining us. This quarter marks a clear inflection point for onsemi. Improving demand signals, accelerating AI data center growth and sustained gross margin expansion demonstrate that the structural changes we made over the past several years are now translating into tangible financial results. We delivered revenue of $1.51 billion and non GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.64, both above the midpoint of guidance. Driven by growth in AI data center, we expanded gross margin for the third consecutive quarter to 38.5% while returning meaningful capital to shareholders as volumes recover and new products ramp. Our focused portfolio and lean cost structure are driving the operating leverage we designed this model to deliver. Turning to the demand environment, we saw a clear improvement as the quarter progressed with strengthening order patterns and an increase in short lead time orders. Taken together, these signals give us confidence that this cycle has found its low point and we are now on a path to recovery. On the new products front, our execution on Treo continues to accelerate as the platform moves from product proliferation into ramping revenue and design wins. In the first quarter, revenue increased more than two and a half times sequentially and we saw broader adoption across high volume automotive, industrial and AI applications with Treo design wins supporting the transition to software defined vehicles. Programs in our funnel include zonal architectures built on 10BASE-T1S paired with smart FETs, auto ADAS park assist system using ultrasonic sensing, power management for AI client platforms and inductive position sensing for humanoids and advanced automation use cases. These wins reinforce Trio's penetration as customers move to a more centralized compute model with zonor for a scalable software architecture and require a faster time to market. Our Trio based driver ICs and inductive position sensing combined with our Gallium Nitride products deliver high power density, efficiency and ease of use in humanoid applications, AI data centers and automotive. Our overall GAN Solutions design funnel which includes vertical GaN now exceeds $1.5 billion supported by a rich product portfolio spanning 40 to 1200 volts. 10 products already sampling with another 20 sampling in the second half of 2026. With a balanced model that combines internal GAN development and foundry partnerships, we have a differentiated roadmap and resilient supply chain that positions us to begin ramping in these markets with revenue starting in 2027. Diving deeper into automotive in the first quarter we began production shipments of our trio based 10BASE-T1S Ethernet solutions for a leading North American customer's next generation zonal architecture. The platform integrates more than 30 trio devices enabling in zone connectivity. Higher energy costs are accelerating EV demand with cost optimized EV platforms driving increased adoption of IGBT based traction inverter solutions. Our latest generation IGBTs deliver a compelling balance of performance efficiency and cost complementing our silicon carbide wins, particularly in front axle applications. During the quarter, we were awarded a new IGBT based traction inverter program with a North American OEM that is transitioning to direct semiconductor sourcing as the industry transitions to 900 volt EV architectures led by Chinese OEMs. We are the preferred power solution and are already in production at customers in their next generation of EV platforms, enabling flash charging and higher efficiency for a longer drive range. Our China automotive revenue grew year over year in Q1 despite a decline in the China passenger vehicle market of 6% for the same period. Our silicon carbide share of new EV models deployed at the 2026 Beijing Auto show in April is approximately 55%. Recent expanded collaborations with Geely and NIO highlight our role in enabling these customers to scale globally with their next generation 900 volt platforms. The latest reports from the China association of Automobile Manufacturers highlight continued strength in new energy vehicle exports in the first quarter, supporting our view that EV adoption is extending beyond the China domestic market. With ongoing fuel supply disruption and elevated energy costs, we expect demand for high efficiency EV platforms and silicon carbide content to remain durable, supporting long term growth opportunities for onsemi in automotive power globally. Turning to AI data centers, our revenue grew more than 30% quarter over quarter, nearly double our expected growth rate entering the quarter driven by a broader adoption across the PowerTree. With multiple XPU vendors and all the leading hyperscalers looking ahead, we now expect our AI data center revenue to double year over year in 2026. As the only broad based US power semiconductor supplier, ONSEMI continues to build a leading position in AI data centers across the full set of power capabilities required to modernize the PowerTree, including high voltage conversion, intelligent power stages, protection and control and system level integration from the grid to the processor. As policymakers push for greater transparency in the US Data center energy use, it reinforces a trend we have been aligned with for some time. Onsemi's power portfolio helps hyperscalers overcome power density and efficiency constraints, reducing losses from the grid to the processor. We are engaged with all major power supply vendors serving every major AI hyperscaler with flex power. For example, our partnership now spans more than 30 active programs across intermediate bus converters, power supplies, battery backup, super capacitors and next generation 800-volt DC architectures. The AI halo effect continues to drive incremental demand in adjacent infrastructure markets, particularly energy storage systems, as rising energy costs and declining battery prices accelerate. Project economics Driven by our differentiated SIC hybrid modules. We are seeing renewed growth in our string ESS and microgrid business globally from China to North America. We now expect to outpace the power semiconductor growth for this market in 2026 with more than 40% revenue growth year over year and a market share approaching 60% and are now ramping revenue for a large US OEM's microgrid deployment. Our announcement with Sanang Electric highlights our hybrid power integrated modules combining ElitSiC technology and FS7 IGBTs enabling higher efficiency and higher power density for utility scale solar inverters and liquid cooled energy storage platforms. These solutions deliver the best system level electrical and thermal performance and reinforce our position as a technology partner of choice as customers scale next generation renewable and storage deployments. Turning to sensing, we are delivering a multimodal sensing capability that customers can deploy across industrial autonomous automotive sensing and emerging robotics applications. We secured a meaningful design win with a leading global robotics platform where our high resolution image sensor and indirect time of flight technology were selected to enable reliable depth perception and navigation in autonomous systems. Our roadmap spans complementary modalities including high resolution imaging depth and other sensing approaches like short-wave infrared (SWIR) that are designed to work together with automotive grade reliability and long lifetime performance. As we move forward, we are encouraged by improving market conditions and the momentum we are seeing across our highest value applications. Our continued evolution towards a product and solution centric portfolio combined with disciplined investment decisions and our fabright actions is strengthening our operating model and enhancing margin durability. We are executing a clear strategy with deeper customer intimacy and a portfolio aligned to the most important long term power and sensing transitions. This positions us well to deliver sustainable growth, expanding profitability and long term value creation. Thad Trent I'll now turn it over to Thad to give you more details on our result and guidance for the second quarter. Thanks Hassan the improving market conditions are coming through in our financial results and outlook. As demand visibility improves this year, we expect the impact of the structural changes we have made to become increasingly visible in our results. With a leaner cost structure, a more focused portfolio and differentiated power and sensing investments, we have built a model that delivers strong operating leverage with incremental revenue driving expanded margins, earnings and free cash flow in the first quarter, Order patterns and improving backlog visibility indicate that we are moving away from the bottom of the cycle and we are on a path to recovery. We delivered revenue of $1.51 billion better than normal seasonality and non GAAP earnings per share of 64 cents, both above the midpoint of our guidance. We expanded non GAAP gross margin for the third consecutive quarter to 38.5% and we expect sequential gross margin expansion throughout the year and we returned $346 million to shareholders through Opportunistic share repurchases representing nearly 160% of free cash flow. Q1 revenue was $1.51 billion, down 1%, versus the fourth quarter and up 5% year over year. As expected, there was roughly $50 million of planned non core exits in the quarter. Turning to the end markets, Automotive revenue was $797 million in the first quarter, roughly flat quarter over quarter and grew nearly 5% year over year, marking the first year-over-year growth after seven quarters of decline. We continue to see stabilization in the automotive market and we now believe we're shifting to natural demand. China Electric vehicle programs continue to outperform other regions driven by a strong export market. Industrial revenue was $417 million, down 6% sequentially but ahead of our expectations. We saw broad based strength across our traditional industrial business for the second consecutive quarter, partially offset by the typical Chinese New Year seasonality. Our AI Data center business is accelerating with Q1 revenue growing more than 30% quarter to quarter and doubling year over year reflecting platform ramps and expanding engagement across the PowerTree. We expect our 2026 AI data center revenue to double compared to full year 2025. For the first quarter. Total revenue for the other category was $299 million and increased 3% quarter over quarter due to AI data center strength. Looking at the first quarter split between the business units, revenue for the Power Solutions Group (PSG) was $737 million, an increase of 2% quarter over quarter and 14% year over year. Revenue for the Analog and Mixed Signal Group (AMG) was $540 million, a decrease of 3% quarter over quarter and 5% year over year. Revenue for the Intelligent Sensing Group OR ISG was $246 million, a 5% decrease quarter over quarter and a 1% increase over the same quarter last year. Moving to gross margin in the first quarter, GAAP and non GAAP gross margin of 38.5% increased sequentially in a seasonally down quarter. The improvement in gross margin is a result of the structural changes we have made over the last several years that have improved our manufacturing performance. Manufacturing utilization increased sequentially to 77% as we ramped production quickly to respond to stronger demand signals in the quarter. In Q2 we expect utilization to be flat to up slightly given the improving demand outlook and our ongoing FABRITE actions. We expect sequential gross margin expansion throughout the year. GAAP operating expenses were $637 million including $329 million in restructuring expenses. Non GAAP operating expenses were $294 million, a decrease of 7% from Q1 2025 driven by cost optimization actions. The GAAP operating margin for the quarter was negative 3.5% and non GAAP operating margin was 19.1%. Our The GAAP tax rate was 26.2% and non The GAAP tax rate was 15%. The diluted GAAP loss per share was $0.08 and non GAAP earnings per share was $0.64. The GAAP diluted share count was 394 million shares and non The GAAP diluted share count was 396 million shares. We opportunistically purchased $346 million of shares at an average price of $60.54. Turning to the balance sheet, cash and short term Investments was approximately $2.4 billion with total liquidity of 3.9 billion including $1.5 billion undrawn on a revolver. Cash from operations was 239 million and free cash flow was $217 million. Capital expenditures were $22 million or 1.4% of revenue. Inventory increased by $60 million to 201 days from 192 days in Q4. The sequential increase was a result of higher internal loadings and customer commitments. This includes 75 days of strategic inventory which is down from 76 days in Q4. As we continue to deplete this inventory over the next two years. Excluding the strategic builds, our base inventory Distribution inventory was flat at 10.8 weeks. Looking forward, let me provide the key elements of our non GAAP guidance for the second quarter of 2026. As a reminder, today's press release contains a table detailing our GAAP and non-GAAP guidance. We anticipate Q2 revenue will be in the range of 1.535 billion to $1.635 billion. We expect to exit an incremental 30 million to 40 million of non core revenue in the second quarter. Excluding these exits, our revenue is expected to increase approximately 7% at the midpoint and be above seasonal. Our non-GAAP gross margin is expected to be between 38 and 40% which includes share-based compensation of $6 million. Non GAAP operating expenses are expected to be between 287 and $302 million and which includes share-based compensation of $28 million. We anticipate our non-GAAP other income to be a net benefit of $6 million. With our interest income exceeding interest expense, we expect our non-GAAP tax rate to be approximately 15% and our non-GAAP diluted share count is expected to be approximately 394 million shares. This results in an anticipated non GAAP earnings per share in the range of $0.65 to $0.77. We expect capital expenditures in the range of 25 to $35 million to wrap up our first quarter. Results demonstrate continued execution and the operating leverage embedded in our model. I would like to thank our teams around the world for their commitment to excellence. Looking ahead as our end markets continue to recover, we expect to deliver sequential gross and operating margin expansion throughout 2026. With that, I'd like to turn the Daniel call back over to Daniel to open it up for questions. OPERATOR As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. And our first question comes from Ross Seymour with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Ross Seymour (Equity Analyst at Deutsche Bank) Hi guys. Thanks for letting me ask a question. I guess for my first one. Hassan, one for you. Cyclical conditions are clearly getting better. But I think the structural and secular stuff is more important to investors when they think about on. So you rattled off a bunch in your preamble. Whether it be the AI data center, the electrical grid, the zonal, there's a whole bunch of them. How do you think those are really going to show through to investors? And when do those become the dominant driver of revenue that we can really see externally? Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) I'll take them one at a time. So if you think about the AI data center you're going to start seeing that while you're already seeing it in 2026. You know, if you recall we entered the year with thinking we're going to be in the high teens growth sequential, growth for the AI data center We ended up at 30%. You see the strength starting to come in and for the year doubling our revenue from last year. So that's going to be a top line growth for the the zonal, the 10 base T1s and so on. That's all really related to the trail traction that we've been talking about. That's already been seen obviously in the revenue with the 2.5x increase that I talked about. But more importantly that's going to start showing up in the top line as we progress in 26, 27, 28 towards that $1 billion in 2030. But that's more important that it's going to come with the margin expansion that this product line will offer. Not just the top line. Recall, the margin range for the treo product is 60 to 70% gross margin. So you can think about it as both a top-line driver but also a gross margin driver that's going to be both on the AI data center and the auto with the zonal and then other opportunities obviously as they progress. For the AI halo effect that I talked about, you will see that in the industrial business. I already talked about just that side of the business growing 40% year on year. As the rest of industrial starts to grow, you're going to start seeing that as a reflection of our overall industrial business. So overall I would say investors are going to see a lot of the growth in the right markets and the right applications, both from a top line, but more importantly the margin expansion and even in 26. Saad in his prepared remarks talked about margin expansion throughout 2026. So you're going to already start to see that shift. And that's all a lot of the portfolio rationalization and the manufacturing work that we've been doing is starting to reflect. Ross Seymour (Equity Analyst at Deutsche Bank) Thanks for that. I guess as my follow up, it's a good segue to the gross margin side. For Thad, the top line is significantly better. You talked about the loadings being better. Can you just update us on what the levers are on the gross margin side? And I guess what I'm getting at is a lot of things are heading in the right direction, but people expect a little bit more stair steps than kind of a slow linear ramp in the gross margin side. Is that something we should expect in the second half of the year and if not, when will those larger steps start to be apparent? Thad Trent Yeah, look, we expect expansion throughout the year as we're seeing the favorability from our fab right activities that we've been taking through 25 as utilization improves, you know, you'll see that as well. We've also had some headwinds on cost input costs going up and our pricing actions are now going to offset that as we think about later in this year. But Russ, the puts and takes are similar to what we've talked in the past. It's utilization. So you think about every point of utilization as being 25 to 30 basis points of gross margin improvement. We think longer term there's another 200 basis points of action or improvement from the fab right initiatives that we're driving. Hasan just talked about favorable mix and I think you're going to see over 200 basis points longer term in impact to gross margin there. And then we divested the fabs back in 2022. I don't think we're going to see that here in 26, but in 27 you should start to see some impact from that. And longer term that's another 200 basis points. So when you start to stack it up, you can get over 50% when you do the math. But look, we expect expansion throughout the throughout the remainder of this year and probably larger step functions than what you saw here in the first quarter. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Vivek Arya with Bank of America. Your line is open. Vivek Arya (Equity Analyst at Bank of America) Thanks for taking my question, Hassan. For the first one last year we saw the analog industry had, you know, decent first half and then things started to get a little more muted in the second half. How do you think this year's second half plays out? Is this year, can it be different than what we saw last year? What are you seeing in terms of your customer discussions, your demand visibility because you mentioned a lot of positive words, demand inflection and demand strengthening and whatnot. Just how do you think this year's second half plays out? Should we be expecting better than seasonal trends in the second half? How should we think about the second Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Yeah, look, I don't want to guide the outlook from a seasonality perspective, but let me give you how the year is laying out the signs, the signals that I look at, whether it's book to bill, whether it's order pattern, lead times, et cetera, all these are pointing in the right, whatever, right direction. We are expecting the second half to outgrow the first half. And I'm not talking about flattish, but I'm talking about good outlook that we have based on all the customer. It is driven by programs that we started ramping already which will continue to ramp. So you can think about it as we've gotten, you know, one quarter and then we're going to get the rest of the quarters as the ramp happens. Whether it's AI data center. I talked about automotive driven primarily in China. Those models that I referenced with 55% being with on semi silicon carbide, those just got released. Those will be in production in the second half. So you can start seeing a lot of the indicate the leading indicators of a solid ordering pattern and you can extend that to, I mentioned AI data center. You can extend that to the industrial. All of these positive patterns started and will continue through the second half of the year. That was not the sentiment that I personally had last year. So in contrast, we see a much better outlook than we did last year. Vivek Arya (Equity Analyst at Bank of America) Got it. And for my follow up on the AI data center you mentioned, that grew 30% sequentially. How big is it for on right now? Is it something like, I don't know, mid single digit percent of sales? Because there's a lot of interest in that segment. So if you could help give us some range on how large that segment is. And do you think you have the scale and the internal resources to become an important player in that segment or do you think you will need some inorganic resources to help you become a more important player in the AI data center segment? Thank you. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) So let me first tackle the first one. So as far as overall we talked last year about 250 million in AI revenue. I just mentioned that we will be doubling that this year. That's pretty healthy growth given where we started. However, I will say one thing. We have all the technologies and all the power technologies from the wall, call it to the core, both inside the data center which is the revenue that we report, but also outside the data center which we report under the industrial. So from a technology perspective, I feel very good. You know, we've done some inorganic acquisitions in 2025. Those are playing to our advantage. We talked about the Aura Summi acquisition, we did the JFET Silicon Carbide acquisition. All of these are pieces of that puzzle that gave us a very well rounded power technology platform that we can deliver. And of course Treo is a very big player on internal technology for the AI data center. Those together cover the technology from a team. You've seen obviously our actions on opex, but both Thad and I have always said we are very focused on capital or RD allocation in the areas of growth. That's where they are going. So to answer your question directly, we absolutely have the focus that we need to be a major player in power for AI Data Center. Vivek Arya (Equity Analyst at Bank of America) Thank you. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Quinn Bolton with Neatman Company. Your line is open. Neil Young Hey, this is Neil Young. I'm for Quinn Bolton. Thank you for letting me ask a question. So you talked about addressing the full AI data center power tree from the energy infrastructure ups, rec level power and point of load sort of. As architectures move toward higher voltage distribution, how should we think about the biggest incremental content Opportunities for onsemi. Is the larger dollar opportunity still outside and at the rack or the VCORE point of load side, is that becoming a more material contributor? And then I have a follow up. Thank you. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Yeah, sure. So if you think about, I guess I'll cover it from the RACC or 800 volt or HVDC all the way to call it the outlet if you will. There's more incremental dollars for us, which is exactly where we play outside of the data center. You can think about a very large opportunity for us with SST solid state transformers as well. That is forward looking and incremental to the opportunity we have today. So to break it down, there's more incremental opportunity from where we are today for the high voltage all the way to the infrastructure. If I include the solid state transformers, but also within the rack, you can't forget that today at the rack, today you can think about 120 kilowatt rack at $9,500. At the 800 volt or high voltage rack, we're thinking about $115,000 content. So although our content is almost 10x inside the rack, there is additional incremental content from the rack all the way to the infrastructure that we also participate in. Because this is all high voltage, which is exactly right in our sweet spot. Neil Young Great, thanks. And then, you know, you noted the company's move beyond the cyclical trough. Automotive inventory digestion largely been behind you or is behind you as automotive begins to recover. How much of the improvement are you seeing is, you know, true unit demand normalization versus content growth from silicon carbide, image sensors, zonal architecture, et cetera. And you know, you talked about China, but beyond China, are you seeing any meaningful differences by region? Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Yes, if I look at, let me answer the question, the regional question first. So obviously China, very healthy automotive, followed by North America, followed by Europe. If you think about it from a recovery in health. As far as your question about content, I think we absolutely leverage more content than sar. Because if you look at the global sar, global SAR is flat, maybe slightly down or slightly up depending on what outlook you look at. And to give you an example, what I had in my prepared remarks, I talked about China specifically given you brought it up. Q1 is seasonally down. The number of passenger vehicle was down 6%. Our revenue was actually up. Therefore that tells you it is a content story in certain areas it is a share gain story as well. So we are both gaining share but also gaining more and more content. I talked about 10 base T1s for zonal architecture within OEM in North America. That is a net new content that did not exist about a year ago because zonal is new 10 based T1s or ethernet base is new. That is content that we are adding to an existing SAR as vehicles upgrade to a software defined vehicle. So more importantly we are more leveraged to content than sar. But in certain areas we are gaining share. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Joshua Buchhalter with TD Cowan. Your line is open. Joshua Buchhalter (Equity Analyst at TD Cowan) Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Maybe following up on some of the previous ones about data center as we think about the doubling this year, can you help us understand how much of that is from scan, how much from silicon carbide? And are we at the point where we can expect any contribution from Treyo in the data center or are some of those lower voltage applications more of a 2027 and beyond story? Thank you. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Yeah, so look, we're not breaking it down to that level by product family, but I will tell you it is everywhere from the low voltage all the way through the high voltage. So that includes mixed signal analog or on the GPU or XPU side for I'd call it low voltage but high power along with silicon carbide and silicon carbide JFET and of course our medium and high voltage silicon anywhere in between. We keep focusing on semi as the only US based supplier with the breadth of power technologies that we can offer and that is starting to come to bear. I gave the example of the applications with Flex Power that gives you an indication of the breadth of our approach. It is not just tied to a single call it. It is with ASIC vendors as well as hyperscalers. So the breadth is what we are leveraging. That's where the growth came in better than we expected as they proliferate and where the 2026 outlook is to double. Joshua Buchhalter (Equity Analyst at TD Cowan) Okay, thank you for the color there and then for a follow up. You know, I think entering the year you gave us sort of a growth algorithm of take whatever we think for the industry growth and take 5% of that off for the business exits. Is that the still the right way to think about it? And in particular the reason I ask is, you know, a few years ago when you were walking away from some of this business, it took you longer than anticipated because the pricing environment was better and your customers didn't react as you expected them to. Any risk of that happening again this year or you know, has anything changed with that old growth algorithm overall? Thank You. Thad Trent Yeah, Josh, this is that no change. As I said, we've exited approximately 50 million in Q1. There's another piece here, 30 to 40 million here in Q2. If you annualize that, you know you roughly get to that 300 million that we planned on exiting. So we're done at the end of 2026. So you're, the algorithm is still true. Take the market growth rate, take 5% off and you know that would be our comparable. But the way that we're seeing it right now is we've got line of sight to that and, and we're, we're executing to those exits. I don't plan on that changing here in the next. Well, I don't, I don't plan on that changing for the rest of this year. Joshua Buchhalter (Equity Analyst at TD Cowan) Thank you. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Vijay Rakesh with Mizuko. Your line is open. Vijay Rakesh Yeah, hi. Thanks Hasan. Just a quick question on the auto industrial trends. Any thought on how you see that progressing, how that trends in the June quarter into the back half? Thad Trent Yeah, so let me give the in market for Q2 because I'm sure that question will come up. So automotive in Q2 we think will be roughly flat. So you know, as I said, we think we're shipping to natural demand. We haven't seen the full recovery or the replenishment cycle in automotive yet. If that were to happen, you know later in the year that's going to be a good thing. But you know right now in Q2 we're looking a flat for our industrial business. We're looking up mid single digit percentage wise. That'll be driven by the broad industrial kind of our traditional market that has been growing the last two quarters sequentially. And then our other market which includes our AI data center will be up mid teen percentages quarter on quarter. Vijay Rakesh And then as you look at the Gross margin into 27, you mentioned the puts and takes. Any thoughts on how we should think about like EFK margin in utilization improving and are there any exits that are still left in the core business? I guess that's it. Thank you. Thad Trent Not as I mentioned on the previous question. There won't be further exits beyond 26. EFK is in our calculation we are at 77% utilized. We, we took utilization up quickly within the quarter to support the strong demand signals that we were getting, which is a good sign. I expect it to be flat to up here in Q2. And if the market continues to recover, we'll see some slight improvement over time. We're going to Basically match our utilization to whatever the demand signal is for the remainder of this year. So that utilization obviously is the biggest factor in driving gross margin expansion. And that's why we're comfortable that with incremental expansion through the remainder of the year. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Gary Mobley with Loop Capital. Your line is open. Gary Mobley (Equity Analyst at Loop Capital) Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. Let me extend my congratulations. I'm sure you're pleased with the upturn in the cycle, so to speak, and the secular drivers as well. But I wanted to ask about utilization. I assume it's going to be trending above 80% broadly across all your manufacturing assets exiting 2026. So at what point do you need to take up your capital intensity above the 5% level you've been running at for a while now to support the growth in 2027, 2028? Thad Trent So Gary, I don't anticipate any change to our capital intensity. I expect it to be in the mid single digit percentage of revenue for the foreseeable future and that goes into 2027 as well. If you think about where we are today, to get to fully utilized for us, which is just over 90%, let's call it low 90s, we've got to have revenue that's 25 to 30% higher than where we are today. Once we hit that, we start flexing to the outside as well. So we actually have a lot of capacity here. And that's why as we sit here today, we don't look at having to bring on capacity. So just to give you an example, Treyo is already ramping out of East Fishkill. That investment has been made a few years ago. So a lot of the investment we made over the past, call it two to three years, is to build the capacity that we need for the new products which are what is ramping today, like the treo, like the AI data center for silicon carbide or the JFAD etc. So it's not about adding more capacity, it's about utilizing the capacity we already invested in. And that's the leverage in our model with the fall through at the mid single digit capex. Gary Mobley (Equity Analyst at Loop Capital) Yeah, that's actually helpful. Thanks guys. And for my follow up, I want to ask about pricing. You did mention passing along some inflationary pressures in your supply chain onto your customers. How pervasive are those pressures? Or asked differently, how pervasive are your pricing adjustments as we look forward over the next few quarters? Yeah, so there's a, I would say a couple of things. So coming into the year, the pricing environment is better than we anticipated. Walking into the year, there's some obviously when you talk about the commodities and the energy pricing or energy cost that we're passing that to customers. As a just a matter of fact, in areas where we all are fully Thad Trent constrained, those are more surgical based on the technologies that we are constrained on. So it's not a one size fits all. It is either a cost offset cost, material cost offset or a call it the allocation methodology that comes with the pricing adjustment. And those are more logical than brought. And Gary, we're already seeing the impact of input costs being higher in the P and L, although we're not seeing the impact of the higher pricing yet. It just takes a while for that to become effective and hit the P and L. So again in the second half, we think you'll start to see that pricing impact show through on the margin line. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Christopher Roland with Susquehanna. Your line is open. Christopher Roland (Equity Analyst at Susquehanna) Thanks guys so much for the question. I think in the press release you talked about some AI wins, both with chip guys as well as hyperscalers. I was wondering if perhaps you could elaborate a little bit more. There is this like vertical power delivery or VRMs or VCore solutions or is this something else? And when you say the chip guys, are you talking about like GPUs or merchant XPUs and any other details here would be great. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Yes, I guess I have to make see what the level of detail I would give. So let me give you the what are wins and what the reference is for. The reference is across the xpu. So whether it's GPU or cpu, the power delivery right at the GPU in whatever form that is required, whether it's an SPS or anything else. And then if you keep going from that point and you go outside to the rest of the rack, you have the medium and high voltage discrete FETS integrated analog mixed signal. And then when you get more on the power boxes, whether it's the ups and so on, like I mentioned with Flex Flex power, those are across a multitude of technologies that we offer, whether it's silicon, silicon carbide MOSFET or silicon carbide jfet. So it changes as you get from the low voltage, which is more integrated mixed signal power, all the way to discrete or module level high voltage power as you get out to the, I guess the outside of the wreck. So it's across the board really. We don't break it out by which one. My view is it's across the Power tree because our broad portfolio. Thank you. One more thing. When I talk about hyperscalers, obviously with the hyperscalers, a lot of it is in the power domain. When you get to the power domain, it's a power rack. A UPS is a UPS with the defined output for the hyperscaler. We work with the likes of Flex Power across all hyperscalers but it is architecturally defined with the hyperscaler. So that gives you kind of a little bit on the breadth but also Christopher Roland (Equity Analyst at Susquehanna) Thanks for the clarity there, Hassan. Maybe secondly, just geographically it looked like EU and Japan bounced back a little bit here. Maybe you could could just talk about what you're seeing geographically and if there are any differences in the recovery. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) No, I think from it depends on the market and the geography. You know, automotive obviously automotive strength in China, we have industrial AI strength in North America. So it's hard these days. It's hard to talk about regional without talking about markets specifically that drive the regions. So it's no longer a regional conversation. It is more a market. So you can think about Europe. You know, the automotive market has not really recovered so you can think about it as being going sideways. And that really matches what our customers, all the OEMs have been reporting. But industrial is better than we expected. North America is AI. Auto is better than we expected with certain names in North America. So we're doing very well there. Industrial and is doing well and starting the recovery. So that really depends on non regional but it's more market dependent looking forward. You know, I talked about we're resuming the aggressive growth in the energy storage or renewable energy side of the business in industrial with the 40% growth that's going to be fueling the second half of the year as that comes back to recovery, that's primarily in North America and China. Daniel Daniel, are there. Tom Tom, your line is open. Hey guys, something funky with the line there. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about the channel. Channel was flat into the quarter. When you look into the second half of the year, you're seeing some more robust trends in your business. Can you talk about your appetite to potentially expand the channel? And then the second one I'll kind of wrap up. One question is just around the direct customers. There was a time during the pandemic where we went from just in time to just in case and it feels like you've moved away from that. As inventory has burned down. As you're seeing a recovery, are you seeing customers move more towards building backup inventory or do you See that kind of being something that you're going to have to carry on your balance sheet in the future. Thank you. Thad Trent So, Tom, on the channel, We've been running nine to 11 weeks in our sweet spot. We were at 10.8 weeks last quarter, consistent with Q4. I expect it to remain at this level. Now, the good news is we've been investing in inventory in the channel. We did take it up early last year for the mass market. And so what we've seen is that mass market revenue going through distribution grew quarter on quarter and year on year. And that's what we want to see. And just as a reminder, about half of the business through the distribution channel is fulfillment, where we own that customer. So what we really focus on is where the distributors do demand creation. And we're seeing growth there as we go through the year. We'll watch the demand signals, obviously, and we'll match that. If it goes up, it's because we have to seed that market for a future revenue ramp. Right. You've got to have that inventory sitting out there. But right now, line of sight is to keep it kind of in this 10 to 11 weeks. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Look, as far as this, just in time, just in case. Whatever acronym people and I use in the industry, that's all cool. At the end of the day, if you don't place your orders with enough visibility, you're not going to get your order. Some technologies are already on allocation and we just said the automotive has not seen a recovery. So technology is technology, whether it goes in AI, data center or automotive. We've been pushing for getting the backlog. Backlog is starting to layer in and lead times are starting to extend. So my view is it's irrelevant what model the industry is going to end up landing at. We're not going to carry all of it on our balance sheet. What we are carrying is our WIP on our balance sheet. And we will ship it as fast and as quickly as we get the orders. So that's our view of the just in time and just in case. Tom Thank you both. OPERATOR Thank you. Our next question comes from Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Joe Moore (Equity Analyst at Morgan Stanley) Yeah, I mean, on the same lines, are you seeing any kind of lead time extensions? Are you seeing any hotspots? Just anything like that. And I know at our conference you had talked about maybe the automotive OEMs looking to take on some inventory because the tier 1s weren't just anything around that. Any anxiety that you see around the inventory situation, Joe, our lead times have stretched slightly. In Q4 we were around 23 weeks. Q1 we're about 26 weeks. So it's gone out just slightly here. And that's across the board kind of on average what we are seeing is a number of orders coming on, coming in inside of lead time and expedites. And I think that's kind of this market recovering faster than many had expected. So thus we took utilization up quickly trying to match that as fast as we we can. I'll let you comment on the inventory. Thad Trent No, I think obviously some of the OEMs you heard in my prepared remarks. Some of the OEMs are starting to do directed or direct semiconductor sourcing. Whether they hold inventory or we have an agreement with them at a cost associated with it. That will be a operational decision. But I do think the anxiety is there. I am starting to get call. We are on allocation in certain technologies. I'm very clear about that. How they resolve it, whether they hold Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) it now or they force the tier one, we'll see. But that is the strength is not yet shown in automotive. But it will come and it will come with even stronger allocation with the automotive market given that AI data center has been showing a ton of strength. OPERATOR Thank you so much. Jim Schneider (Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs) Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Schneider with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Good evening. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe related to the last one, I was wondering if you could kind of broadly characterize your customers willingness to take up their the OEMs to take up their own internal inventory. Are we starting to see that already in the industrial sector but not yet in automotive? And are there any other areas where you start to see that behavior? Thank you. No, I don't think you're already seeing that. So I'll give you obviously the other ones, AI data Center. There's no inventory. It's all going to and consumption or end build out Industrial. I think it's a ramp. We can see the deployment whether it's energy storage system or the standard industrial. A lot of my peers talked about that. That is not an inventory build. That is an actual end demand recovery automotive. You know Thad talked about it. We're shipping to natural demand. So I don't believe there's inventory being built out. Now how they protect from shortages like we know we're headed to or will happen. That is a question for them about how do they want to put it on their balance sheet or really wait in line. We'll see how that plays out when automotive starts show a little bit more strength. And Then just as a follow up about capital allocation, you've done a very good job of opportunistically buying back shares when the stock price is low. With the stock price having recovered quite nicely up here, how are you thinking about the calculus for incremental buybacks versus other things to do with the capital? Thank you. Well, just as a reminder, the capital allocation is after investing in our business. So right after making the R and D investments that we've been doing, the capex investments, and then we've been returning 100% of our free cash flow to our shareholders. Last quarter was 160%. Over time our goal is to return 100%. You know, you can see that we will flex up at times that when we think there's a dislocation. You know, as I noted, we were buying last quarter at an average share price of $60.54. So you saw us flex up and you know, but over a longer period of time, you should think about 100% of our free cash flow being returned to shareholders. Thank you. Harlan Sir Thank you. Our final question comes from Harlan sir with JP Morgan. Your line is open. Yeah, good afternoon guys. Thanks for taking my question. You know, for a while now you've been giving us metrics on customer comps in your mass market business. It's actually I feel like been a good sort of leading indicator of the cyclical improvement dynamics. Right. Recall a discussion a couple quarters ago, I think you actually reiterated it today that mass market is roughly 25% of your Disney business, kind of small to medium sized customers. Your Disney business was strong this quarter. Right. It was almost up like 24, 25% year over year. How much of this was mass market strength? And then for the mass market, are you guys targeting trail for more general purpose catalog for some of these customers as well? So the mass market as I highlighted earlier was up quarter on quarter and year on year. So it's about a 35% growth. So you know, that's accelerating. I think a few quarters ago we said it was about a 30% growth. So you can see that that is accelerating as we've been seeding the distribution channel with the right inventory for that mass market for the trail. Absolutely. Treo is a very virtual platform. And as in my prepared remarks and really in conversations we've had in general about Treo, it is a analog mixed signal platform upon which we build a lot of solutions and products. And all these products are all application specific products that are definitely for the mass market. We don't make asics or custom chips. We make chips to solve specific problems for customers and we do deploy those in the mass market through our distribution channel and distribution network. So absolutely, Treyo is part of our broad mass market push. I appreciate that. And then, you know, doing the downturn slash stabilization period last year you guys did a. You guys really focused on building your portfolio of products right across your power portfolio, your mixed signal analog portfolio. Two of those acquisitions like VCore from Aura, VGAN from NextGen, I think you were targeting to have products into the market in the first half of this year for VCore sampling of your VGAN products. Is the team executing to this? And with VCore, I think as you mentioned, I mean there's a pretty sizable market opportunity, especially on the CPU side where we see all these new server CPU SKUS x86 custom ARM CPUs in the data center. Is the team seeing quite a bit of strong interest for your new multiphase controller regulator products? 100% we're full focused on it. The team, we have a dedicated team that does and covers that not just from a go to market, but from a product. So there's complete focus on it. It is like you said, a very large opportunity. And by the way, it's the same focus that we have across the company, across, across the whole power tree, but definitely at the, call it at the GPU level or on the board level, blade level for sure. There's a focus across all technologies. Now the VGAN is more on the high voltage I mentioned last time. We are sampling vgan and we're on track to continue to do that with revenue starting 27. And that's still on track as I talked about it, I think in the fourth quarter when we announced it. OPERATOR Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Hassan Al Khoury, President and CEO, for closing remarks. Hassan Al Khoury (President and CEO) Thank you for joining us on the call. Before we close, I'd like to recognize the extraordinary efforts of our global teams over the past several quarters. They have navigated one of the most challenging cycles our industry has seen while continuing to execute, invest and move the company forward. Their focus, resilience and commitment are what we have positioned onsemi to deliver consistently today and to perform even more strongly as conditions continue to improve. Thank you. OPERATOR This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Disclaimer: This transcript is provided for informational purposes only. 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