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    Equity research

    Deutsche Bank: Humanoids

    Market Growth Forecast

    > Rapid Expansion: The global humanoid robot market is projected to see significant growth, moving from approximately 3,030 units in 2024 to an estimated 700,500 units by 2030.

    > Long-Term Outlook: Looking further ahead, the forecast anticipates the market scaling to 70 million units by 2050.

    > Market Value: The market value is also expected to climb sharply, reaching $1,050,000 million (or $1.05 trillion) by 2050.

    Regional Dominance

    > China's Lead: China is currently the primary driver of the market, accounting for 85% of global shipments in 2024. While this percentage is forecast to decrease as other markets mature, China is still expected to remain a dominant player, holding 43% of the market share by 2050.

    > United States: The U.S. share is projected to grow from 12% in 2024 to 43% by 2050, effectively matching China's share by the end of the forecast period.

    > Other Regions: Europe, Japan, and other regions are expected to grow from a small 3% share in 2024 to 14% of the global market by 2050.

    Key Industry Players

    > United States: Major players include Tesla, Figure, Agility, Boston Dynamics, and 1X. Tesla is forecasted to be a significant contributor, growing from 100 units in 2024 to 150,000 units by 2030.

    > China: Prominent companies include Unitree, AGIBOT, UBTECH, Leju Robotics, Booster Robotics, and Galbot. Unitree is projected to reach 100,000 units by 2030.

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  • F
    First Fellow

    Figure Robotics is my favorite Robotics company. Apptronik and Dyna are the other interesting ones.

    The problem: Figure, Apptronik, Dyna are all private. $39B+ marks.

    $Robostrategy(BOT.US) is a closed end fund on Nasdaq that holds pre IPO robotics names in one ticker.

    Top holdings:

    โ€ข Figure AI โ€” 25.48%

    โ€ข Dyna Robotics โ€” 25.48%

    โ€ข Apptronik โ€” 25.48%

    โ€ข Dexmate โ€” 6.84%

    โ€ข Path Robotics โ€” 4.10%

    It is actually a concentrated humanoid bet.

    What I like:

    โ†’ First clean public access to names that usually stay VC only

    โ†’ NAV updated to $10.51 (June 30)

    โ†’ Labor + AI are entering the warehouse

    What made me pause:

    โ†’ Closed end fund. Price can trade far above NAV

    โ†’ Private marks, not daily liquid holdings

    โ†’ 2.5% management fee on top of concentration risk - This is high for me.

    If robotics disappoint, this wrapper gets hit hard. I will read more on it, but decided not to buy it yet. Too much premium and fee to my taste.

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  • H
    Hardik Shah

    ๐Ÿ“ข ๐‰๐”๐’๐“ ๐ˆ๐: $Figure Tech Solutions - CL(FIGR.US) Figure Reports Record Q2 Marketplace Volume Above Guidance

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Š๐ž๐ฒ ๐‡๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ:

    โžค Figure said preliminary ๐๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ” results exceeded the top end of prior guidance.

    โžค Consumer Loan Marketplace Volume reached ๐š ๐ซ๐ž๐œ๐จ๐ซ๐ $๐Ÿ’.๐Ÿ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ— ๐›๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐ง in Q2, up ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ•% QoQ and ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ% YoY.

    โžค June Consumer Loan Marketplace Volume rose to $๐Ÿ.๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ๐Ÿ— ๐›๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐ง, up ๐Ÿ–% MoM and ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ“% YoY.

    โžค $๐˜๐‹๐ƒ๐’ in circulation totaled $๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ” ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐ง at June-end, roughly flat MoM.

    โžค Democratized Prime ๐Œ๐š๐ญ๐œ๐ก๐ž๐ ๐Ž๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ reached $๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐ง, up ๐Ÿ% MoM and ๐Ÿ”% QoQ.

    โžค ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ซ๐จ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ ๐ƒ๐ž๐ฆ๐š๐ง๐ increased to $๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐ง, while ๐€๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐‹๐ž๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ ๐’๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ฒ rose to $๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ๐Ÿ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐ง.

    โžค Figure will transition from ๐ฆ๐จ๐ง๐ญ๐ก๐ฅ๐ฒ disclosures to a weekly performance dashboard.

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐–๐ก๐ฒ ๐ˆ๐ญ ๐Œ๐š๐ญ๐ญ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ:

    โžค Marketplace volume growth signals ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐ง๐  consumer lending demand and platform adoption.

    โžค Results above guidance may reinforce confidence in Figure's ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ” growth outlook.

    โžค Weekly reporting could provide investors with more ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐ž๐ช๐ฎ๐ž๐ง๐ญ operating performance updates.

  • H
    Hardik Shah

    ๐Ÿ“ข ๐‰๐”๐’๐“ ๐ˆ๐: $Figure Tech Solutions - CL(FIGR.US) Figure Technology Solutions plans $600M senior notes offering

  • S
    Serenity

    Just a random thought, leading US humanoid players strangely me of the current LLM dynamics:

    Agility ( $Churchill Capital XI(CCXI.US) ) kinda feels like Anthropic for robotics.

    With $Amazon(AMZN.US) and $NVIDIA(NVDA.US) heavily backing it, ingrained with $Alphabet(GOOGL.US) Deepmind (like TPUs). And it starts off with enterprise commercialization.

    Optimus is kinda off doing its own thing like xAI.

    Supported by Tesla/Elon and his visionary roadmap as usual.

    Figure is like ChatGPT

    With Microsoft/OpenAI investing (kinda like Microsoft), then ended up kinda competing them by building their own VlA and setting them behind.

    But ends up top 2 leaders anyway.

    Boston Dynamics is Gemini

    Kinda started the entire humanoids thing like transformers with backflip videos.

    With R&D supported by $Alphabet(GOOGL.US) but somehow let everyone else leapfrog them in commercialization.

    And then thereโ€™s $NVIDIA(NVDA.US) just chilling, silently powering the entire humanoids ecosystem.

  • S
    Serenity

    $Robostrategy(BOT.US) is the biggest red flag.

    NAV is $7.34/share. The stock is now trading at $37.92.

    You are basically buying Figure at $200B+ while itโ€™s valued at $39B.

    Buying the company is just trading pyramid float dynamics off other retail.

    Not the appreciation or underlying fundamentals.

    To make matters worse:

    Thereโ€™s $2B dilution as valuation arbitrage as you all get diluted to oblivion.

    I got a lot of fund managers dming influencers like myself about it but in reality:

    Retail just looks like exit liquidity.

    Source: Serenity

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  • H
    Hardik Shah

    $Figure Tech Solutions - CL(FIGR.US) | ๐…๐ข๐ ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐“๐ž๐œ๐ก๐ง๐จ๐ฅ๐จ๐ ๐ฒ: Jefferies maintains ๐‡๐จ๐ฅ๐, raises ๐๐“ ๐ญ๐จ $๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ‘

    Analyst sees strong loan marketplace growth and expanding platform adoption supporting higher estimates.

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